Sahaja Yoga Meditation… Questions & Answers

(Public Lecture, Brisbane 5th May, 1987)
Shri Mataji: No.  You see in this Sahaja Yoga you become the Spirit.  Then you don’t have to meditate much, about ten minutes or so is sufficient and there’s nothing much particular restriction or anything in it.  You can sit in any pose you like, there is no restriction of any kind.  Because you become the Spirit.  Only thing is you have to get into thoughtless awareness, that’s the first state is, which we call as Nivichara.  For that state to achieve you see you have to sit down just and refuse to take any thoughts in your mind.  Just say not this, not this.  So suddenly because your Kundalini’s there already up there, so you become thoughtlessly aware.  Once you become thoughtlessly aware you can stay like that for about five minutes or so, just that’s all.  It’s not much time is needed because you are in meditation.

(Public Lecture, Brisbane 5th May, 1987)
Question: Is your Spirit one with your mental and physical being or is it separate from it?
Shri Mataji:  It enlightens all that.  Now can you say that this light that is enlightening us, is it one with us or without us?  You see light, the light is separate, the Spirit is separate from us, no doubt but is integrates everything.  The reason is we see, now for example, you are sitting in an enlightened way but supposing you are sitting in the darkness, you’ll be rushing each other, you will not know how you stand with each other.  There’s no integration.  So the light on the physical, mental, emotional side of our life is complete and completely integrated.  That’s a good question.

Question: When a person is enlightened (through Sahaja Yoga) can you give it to someone else?
Shri Mataji:  Of course.  Of course.  When you are enlightened you can enlighten another person, that’s the power you get.

Question: How does it happen?
Shri Mataji:  It happens because you become that.  Supposing there’s one candle, now this candle is not enlightened, all right.  Now I enlighten this, then with this candle I can enlighten any other candle.  So simple as that.  It is so simple.  You see everything that is divine is simple.  Everything that is human is complicated.  Take it like that.  Is extremely simple.

Interviewer: I personally would doubt that human society has ripened, or has improved. If you look throughout the world, then more wars than ever, more people than ever.
Shri Mataji: Yes, it is, it has to be, it has to be. It has to be at the worst time when we will be having.

It’s written down in the Nala Akhyana. Is there was one fellow called Nala, and his wife was separated by this Kali, the one who is ruling now. Kali is the modern times deity – Kali, Kali Yuga this is. And he caught hold of this Kali. He said, “I am going to kill you, because you are the one who puts us into confusions, into all demoralization and everything, so better I kill you.” He said, “See, I have also one importance.” “So what is your importance?” He said, “The importance is such that at the time when there will be Kali Yuga, I mean that’s the blackest time of Kali Yuga, that’s the time those who are seeking me in the hills and dales will become householders, and they’ll get their Realization.” He said it.

So this is the time, not only the time, but the maturity comes through witnessing all these things. That’s why they are taking to it. Why there is so much seeking today? Because they see all these things happening. So there are people who are just ready.

I agree with you, to look at, it looks horrible, like a pond full of worms. But I have seen lotuses coming out of it, fragrant lotuses, giving fragrance. You see the lotuses. And we have small little lotuses also. (Laughter) Quite a lot of them all over the world. You’d love to see them. The world can be easily changed. It’s difficult for people to understand that it is true. That’s the only trouble is. Because, you see, they – I don’t know in what world they live. I don’t know what – they don’t believe in it. Now see, these people are here. They are people who have been cured by – so many people have enjoyed Sahaja Yoga. But still it happens. I think it will come. It will happen. India is an easier place to work out Sahaja Yoga. Because they know about it, and they have felt it. They are more – they are not in, you see, they cannot do shopping, they cannot do guru shopping. Thank God we are not so rich. (Shri Mataji laughing & laughter) So all the gurus have come down here, you see, to lynch you nicely. (Laughter) And make you do this. But some of them have been really very cruel, I must say, very cruel people. The way they have destroyed, they have destroyed so many people, made so much money.

Interviewer: Sure [inaudible ].
Shri Mataji: Horrible, horrible, it is. So, you can’t make money out of it at all. And one gentleman who came from BBC told Me that Anglo-Saxon brain cannot understand anything without money. What do you say to that?

Interviewer: I think it’s not true.
Shri Mataji: It’s not true. Because how can it be? How much money did you pay to Christ? To anyone of the real saints, I am saying. But the whole system is like this working, what to do? I’m sure it will work out, I’m sure. It has to spread. And it will work out, no doubt. Look at the happiness on their faces when I say that. (Shri Mataji laughing & laughter)