Q&A Session, Nirmala Palace, London ’82

QUESTION: When we get angry, is our anger just our tendency to react like this?

SHRI MATAJI:  You see, if you get angry within yourself, and if you are sure that you are not doing anything wrong, for a Sahaja Yogi there is no need to say “outside you are angry.” There’s no need. That anger itself is a power. And you should do your bandhan and anything that you want to do. But you should not show that you’re angry. You should be absolutely silent, because you can be, you are in the axis; you are not on the periphery. Actually the anger is just to see your anger, and use that anger for that purpose. And once you start doing that, that anger will itself work out. That anger will itself work out the person. And you’ll be amazed, how it … But you must learn to see your anger that is working. All these things are important.

You have seen that sometimes only shouting at the bhoots they go away, and many mad people have been cured like that. But you don’t do all that, that’s for Me. You must be always decent, with decorum and all that.

But if the anger is because of your nature or a tendency or out of control, then it’s a bad thing. If it is out of control, then it’s a bad thing. If you get into a temper because it is out of control, then it’s a bad thing. I can get very angry but I am completely under control. I know why I am angry, where the bhoot is, how he’s running away, I can see that. But you can’t see the bhoot, you can’t see anything. So there is no need for you to get angry, show temper.

But if you have an anger, say for example which makes you uncontrollable, then there is a mantra for that: Shanti. “Ya Devi sarva bhuteshu, Shanti rupena samsthita.” You must ask for that bliss, for that peace. This is a mantra for you. For controlling your temper, you have to tell yourself, “Ya Devi sarva bhuteshu, Shanti rupena samsthita.” So Shanti is the point, the axis point is that from where you witness everything. You are in Shanti, you are in complete peace. You are not in a turmoil, even if you are angry. You are not in a turmoil. Whatever is angry is the power, and the power is taking charge.

But unless and until that is achieved, what you have to do is to put yourself in a position that you are peaceful. So I think that’s a very good mantra is to say, “Ya Devi sarva bhuteshu, Shanti rupena samsthita.” Can you say that? (The audience recites the mantra).

So the Shanti is your fort. But peacefulness never means cowardice. Never call cowardice as peace. A person who is peaceful is never coward, because nothing can transgress it, nothing can overpower it. It is never, never possible that cowardice and peace can go together.

But your power is inside, not outside. So you don’t show your power of your anger outside. But just a little anger with anybody, you will see it will work out. But first establish that position within you where you are the axis, where you do not allow anger to sit on your head. That is the growth. That’s the growth that you are at peace.

Also, another question? All right? Satisfied now?

Both ways you should know – that one is the anger that is detached, is perfectly all right. Anger which involves you, work it out. So judge yourself, as to what it is.

Good question.

QUESTION: Shri Mataji, could You say something about maintaining our attention so that it stays where it should.

SHRI MATAJI:  He has asked a very practical question it’s true that “to keep the attention where it should be.”

You see, for everything you have to do some exercise – abbhyas – not before Realization, after Realization.

The best way is to learn how to watch yourself. Just now, sitting here, just put yourself into a position from where you watch yourself. “Now what am I doing?” This is the abbhyas, this is the study. Apart from mantras, apart from anything, the abbhyas is the practice, practice of becoming a witness. And the witness is the Spirit state. There attention will not go. I mean you will see everything, it is there, but attention will be inside. Try to practice this: “Am I a witness?”

Now, say some people say,” Oh God! I had a horrible time, Mother. This happened, that happened.” See, you are not a witness. How can you have a horrible time if you are the Spirit? You only have a horrible time when you are not the Spirit. If you can watch the whole thing as a drama that is played, then you are not having a horrible time, but this outside of you is having a horrible time, which you are watching.

That’s how the attention can be fixed very well if you practice abbhyas, practice all the time to be witness. Say you go out, you see something. You just try to see it, not to think about it. Be a witness of the whole thing. The joy will be complete, and also you will become absolutely peaceful. Your attention will be completely enlightened. And then the inspiration you will get will be tremendous.

(after a long pause) See, it’s working out. Working out. Try to watch.

And it has such a tremendous memory, if you know how to watch. I mean, to Me, if I see something – I mean, to Me it is just like a film in My mind. If I have seen this room, now I know what is in this design – everything I know. How you are sitting, what pose you have taken, how you were, what was it – everything is like a design. You see it comes to me, just like a picture – absolutely. Not of this life, but of lives.

Because that’s a recording system that records best. If there are thoughts it’s like something in between. You see, now he is trying to record Me on the film, and if there is something in between moving, nothing will come in it. But when there is nothing in between and you are just seeing through, you are recording everything that is important.

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QUESTION: How do we fight the ego (and superego)?

SHRI MATAJI: How do we fight the ego. See, you should never fight ego. If you try to fight it, it will sit more on your head.

Shri Mataji

That’s not the way to fight it. That there is ego, and you fight your ego, “Oh I am going to box you”, then it will grow more, you see. The more you box it, the more it will grow. Never fight your ego. Only way is to see it.

Your attention is very important. Your attention is now enlightened. Whatever you see, it comes to its right size. It comes to its right size. Say ego, if it is overgrown, you just watch your ego. Best is to watch yourself in the mirror and you say, “Oh Mr. Ego, how do you do?” (laughter) Then it will come down. But don’t fight it. Just to be seen.

All kinds of egos could be there. If you are over-educated, you are egoistical. If you are uneducated, you are egoistical because you must try to show that you are something. All sorts of egos are there.

So best thing is to see for yourself. That’s why I say,” Face your self.” Your self means your Spirit.

QUESTION: Mother, is it the same for super ego?
SHRI MATAJI: Yes, very much so. For super ego also, not to be frightened. You should just say,” Get out! I can see you very clearly, you are there. You get out from here. How dare you frighten me, I am the Spirit. I am the Spirit. How dare you can do that.” That’s how.

You see, ego makes you idiotic, absolutely. Ego makes you idiotic, makes an idiot out of you, absolutely. And the super ego makes you a coward. It makes you a coward. Now how to fight it: “I’m not going to be an idiot,” if you say that, ego will go away. If you want to be an idiot, then he will be there to help you. If you want to be an idiot, all right, call Mr. Ego. You’ll become an idiot straightforward. Is the easiest way. Easiest way if you want to become an idiot, simple thing is to call the ego, “You come, Mr. Ego, and settle down in me”, and immediately… This is a very simple composition.