Public Lecture (Miami USA '90)

Question: What method can you use for a lay person?

Question: What method can you use for a lay person? It’s very difficult to develop this sensitivity.
Shri Mataji: You see but that’s what it is in the Kali Yuga, in these modern times only, when we are surrounding by all these things, we get into confusions and illusions and this kind of a subhranth stithi as they call it in Sanskrit language, is very important because in that only we have started seeking. Can you imagine Christ had only twelve disciples, only twelve, so how many were there seekers, and all these great gurus, how many disciples they had who were realized souls, very few.

So, today is a special time, is already described, if you are an Indian you’ll know from Naladamyanti. The Nala once got hold of this Kali and he said, “I must kill you because you have tortured me, you have separated me from my wife and you are the one who create all this confusion.” So he said, “All right you can do it but you must know my importance my mahatmyam.” He said, “What is your importance?” He said, “At the time when I’ll be ruling” means modern times “at that time those people who are seeking the truth in the valleys and on the Himalayas will find it while they’ll be householders and they’ll find it.”

It’s already described in Indian if you have read also the Nadigranth is described that this was going to happen, everything in details has been described. If you have read William Blake you will find he has described it, Lewis has described, so many people have described these times and have called it as Aquarius Time because this Kundalini is inside the triangular bone which is the Aquarius, is known as the Aquarius, I mean they are talking about it, but instead of beating the bush you see, we should really get to it. Get to it.

Question: What are the ways and means to raise the Kundalini?

Question: What are the ways and means to raise the Kundalini and what are the symptoms?
Shri Mataji: The first one is I’ll do it now, so you Rising of the Kundaliniwill see it’s nothing so special, but the second one is that when you get your Realization first thing that happens to you that you become thoughtlessly aware to begin with when it crosses over Agnya chakra and when it pierces through this one you can feel the cool breeze coming out of your head, you can feel the cool breeze around yourself.

Now all these fingers are shown there you can see. They denote your centers. Only you have to understand the decoding of it.

Now supposing you take ten children who are realized souls and you tie their eyes and ask them: “What’s the matter with this gentleman?” Immediately, they will all raise the same finger, supposing they raise this finger and you ask that person: “Are you suffering from bronchitis?” They’ll say: “Yes, how do you know?” So, all these centers are decoded and once they are decoded if you know the decoding, if you know how to decode it, then it’s so easy, very easy you find out.

So this is the only thing we have to know about the decoding part of it, what is the center we are catching, what is the center others are catching? Now if you know how to correct the centers, you are all right. And the others are all right. It’s very simple it’s either left side or right side. Only two problems, basically.

Question: What is the role of thought in the process of Self Realization?

Question: What is the role of thought in the process of Self Realization?
Shri Mataji: I’ve already told you that when we think, we think Place hand on the crown chakraof the future and the past, but at this moment is the thing that’s reality is, the present is the reality, so what happens because of our special type of a brain that we have a prismatic, every time we react to this, to that, to that and all the time we are reacting and especially in America I find there are so many choices that you go on choosing between one to another to another to another this is maddening. We are all the time thinking, thinking, thinking we cannot stop it, but after Realization you are at peace. If you want you can think, if you don’t want you need not think. I must tell you, a Swiss doctor told Me: “Mother you cut my throat do what you like, but stop this thinking, I’m fed up.”

Question: What is the qualification of a guru?

Question: What is the qualification of a guru? What should a guru be?
Shri Mataji: See, it was asked to Guru Nanaka and he said, “Sahib mili hain Guru Nanakso hi sat guru.” Meaning: the one who makes you meet the Divine is the only one who is the SatGuru. Who is the Guru. Otherwise all the rest are useless. Then he has categorized them as agurus, kugurus, he has categorized them, but the one who is a SatGuru, the one who is the real Guru is the one who makes you meet God. Makes you meet this Divine power.

Question: How do you feel about people asking for money for spirituality?

Question: How do you feel about people asking for money for spirituality?
Shri Mataji: Is correct, you see that’s a very correct question you asked me, that how do I travel because most of time my husband pays but now these people (Sahaja yogis) are feeling ashamed of themselves that how he should pay for your salvation so they pay to the airfare not to me, all right? To the  what you call the travel agents, not to me, for this hall they have collected little money and they are paying for it. But, you would not like me to pay for your food, for your chairs, for everything. That’s not expected.

See if I have to travel they should pay, it’s in all self-esteem and in self-respect, but I did it for years together first when I came to America I came on my own, My husband paid for everything. Luckily he has money so and he thinks this is a good work so he pays for quite a lot of things, but that’s a different thing, that’s very different, that’s very little that they have to pay, that’s different and it’s all our accounts are known. I don’t know what they do, how they collect money, where they spend it, I don’t see, I’m very bad at accounts! I just don’t understand, but what I’m saying that sometimes if they want to pay for my travel it’s correct, because I think they must have self-respect, my husband shouldn’t pay for my travel, for this hall, for their food, for everything, is it proper? It’s not proper.

So, if you go to one extreme that you give thousand of pounds to somebody, because he gives you a funny mantra, and here people ask me who pays for the hall, I mean they must pay, don’t you think so, in self-respect you all must pay.

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