Public Lecture (Vancouver Canada ’90)
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Question: Is Gorbachev is a walk-in, which means that is he from some other place which is advanced soul?
Shri Mataji: He is a realized soul, no doubt, he is. That’s why it’s working out. He knows me very well. He is a realized soul. That you recognized him, I’m very happy to know that. He is and look at them, how lucky they are to have him there. And, he is a very sensible man, no doubt. Even Lenin was. Lenin was a realized soul, you will be surprised, but he was forced by all his party members. He was alone, you see. And, all of them forced him to take a course of line which was really proved later on. But whatever was his state, talked about stateless state and all that was his dream and that’s coming true. He was also a realized soul. But he went onto a wrong line and it took so much time for them to come back and they had horrible despotic people, no doubt but the way the Gorbachev is doing is great and I have a rapport with him and he is a very great man, I must say. And he has tremendous respect for me. Because we are of the same style, you can say, the same line, that’s why.
You, too, had in America. You had, say, Abraham Lincoln was a realized soul, no doubt. And, we had Mahatma Gandhi. We had many people, but they were singled out. They couldn’t give realizations to others. They were singled out and they had to fight, but now you all can become realized souls. We have to have many more to get peace, to get joy, to get what we deserve.
Question: You talk about our habits and weakness and how to overcome that. Can You talk a little bit more about it?
Shri Mataji: See, we are weak because we are ignorant first of all. As I told you, we are holding the snake and there’s darkness and in that darkness we don’t see that this is going to bite us. But, when you become enlightened, you become a very powerful, dynamic person, absolutely. And you separate yourself from your habits. You see it very clearly. Then you don’t talk that “I have this habit or that habit.” You don’t say like that.
Like a person would come and say, “Mother, you know, my Agnya is catching; this chakra is catching. That means I have too much ego.”
But they don’t say, “I have ego.” I mean if you tell somebody, “You have ego,” they’ll hit you hard, isn’t it? But if a person gets it, he feels it. And he says, “Mother, I have too much problem with the Agnya Chakra so please clear it up.”
So, if you have any habits – say supposing there are people who used to take drugs. In the beginning I had horrible people in England, about seven of them, all drug addicts and things. Of course, very well-educated, professors and things, but all drug addicts, hippies and violent people, really. When they came to Me, it was not easy to handle them. But they are today the foundation of Sahaja Yoga. Wonderful people they are. Now what happened, they said, “We want to get rid of it but we can’t. We just can’t help it.”
But you will be amazed, overnight they gave up, overnight. Just it happens because you see the light and you throw the snake, just happens. You don’t have to think about it, just happens. I never tell them these Ten Commandments – don’t do this, don’t do that. Don’t tell them. Just it works from within. Why should I tell them? Why should I give them a lecture? There’s no need. They themselves become their own master and the mastery is that the master cures and gives you powers. You develop that dignity; it’s remarkable what happens. To Me, it’s not a surprise because I know what you are. You are so glorious.
It’s like you take a small little, say a television to a remote corner of India and in some village and show them and say that “Here is a place, this box will show you all the kinds of music and all kinds of dramas and this.”
They say, “What? This box? How is it going to work out?”
And, you put it to the mains and it starts working and they say, “It’s fantastic.”
It’s like that. We are fantastic, we are glorious but we have yet to be connected, that’s all. It just happens, you don’t have to force yourself, you don’t have to do anything. It just works. The inner force works it out.
Question: What would be the effect of increasing number of Sahaja Yogis on the economic system and the lifestyle of the country where the increase of Sahaja Yogis takes place?
Shri Mataji: Oh, it just triggers everything. For example, now what are our problems? We see the economic problems of this country is. I have understood it so well that we have so much of a, say, ores and all other things like silver we have here, and gold and all kinds of things we have, and the ones who are exploiting us are Americans and nobody sees the point. Nobody sees the point. While those who will get Sahaja Yogis, they will become so dynamic. They will put in their own industries here. Why send it? Why make cars in America? Why not make them here? So many things can happen because you become so dynamic and there’s so many people to help you all over that this is what should happen. After all, you have all kinds of things available here. Why should you send your aluminum to America, to be drawn into wires and beaten into sheets? There’s no need. We can do it ourselves.
Question: In order to develop realization, if you’re not living somewhere close to where there is a center then what do we do?
Shri Mataji: There’s no need to depend on me. We have people here who are experts, who have really become masters. And, they will definitely help you so it doesn’t matter. I am always with you. Whenever you think of me, you’ll know I am with you and you can always write to me. There’s nothing to feel that I’m away from you, that … maybe that is the reason people don’t go further with it. But as you trust me, you trust yourself. You must trust yourself. You must have faith in yourself that you are quite capable and you can do it. You can do it and that there are people who will help you. They are very humble, sweet, beautiful people. You will like them and they’ll all help you till you become perfect. Such love, I tell you.
Children are the best, children are the best for Sahaja Yoga. They take to Sahaja Yoga in no time. Most of the children these days are born realized and we have to just understand them. So many children are born realized. Children are the best to understand Sahaja Yoga, to work it out and they just of a very high level, I should say. Like the other day there was a child who was receiving a phone. He said, “Oh, it’s all right. You are not a yogi.” Puts it down the phone.
So I said, “How do you know?”
“Mother, he had no vibrations. How could I know? Why should I talk to him? Let it be, I put down the phone.”
Question: Mother, is it a symbol of your photograph that gives vibrations?
Shri Mataji: It’s true. My photograph luckily has some sort of a coefficience that it emits vibrations. I mean, I would like anybody else’s photograph if it does, because it’s a good idea; but I don’t think there’s anyone like that, because none of the incarnations and none of the saints were photographed. It’s very surprising, nobody was photographed. At the most, and also, nobody was portrayed in their lifetime, because you know what happened to all the saints and to all the incarnations: when they lived, everybody was after their lives. No question of having so many people. I mean, even Christ had hardly twelve people and how they tortured His life! Actually, if you see His public life, He lived hardly for three and a half years and they crucified Him.
So, this is what the world was. It’s not so bad now. I mean, nobody is going to crucify me, Continue Reading »