Radio interview (Santa Cruz USA ’83)

Question: What can you say to them about how to become a realized soul, how to achieve this Cool Breeze?

Interviewer: The listeners who will be tuning in to this program on the radio won’t have had the experience of being in Your presence. Some of them may have who were in this room. What can you say to them about how to become a realized soul, how to achieve this Cool Breeze that comes from… 

Shri Mataji: At the beginning of My lecture, if you tell them that they should put their hands towards the radio. Just on the radio. They might feel the Feeling the Cool Breeze If they don’t feel it, then tell them to put the right hand first till they feel the cool breeze, and left hand up as if ventilating out. And, then the left hand towards the radio and the right hand up. It might work out because it has worked in Hong Kong. [laughter]

Interviewer: I’ll tell You something interesting. I interviewed Danny and Doug (Sahaja Yogis) before You came so that listeners would have a chance to come here. And, one of them called me and said that he went into meditation in the afternoon and felt the Cool Breeze just by hearing them talk.

Shri Mataji: See, if Sahaja Yogis can do it then when I’m talking it should happen. [laughter]

Question: How do we know who is teaching something that’s true or who is being deceptive?

(From Radio Interview 1983 Oct 01, Santa Cruz USA)

Interviewer: I have a question that’s important to me and to many people who are searching for something or seeking perhaps, what you call, Self Realization or Sahaja Yoga or something. Some of us don’t know exactly what it is. But we find that there are many teachers. How do we recognize those teachers that you might call fraudulent from the real ones? It’s so difficult because they all seem to be able to inspire us in certain ways and give us experiences. How do we know who is teaching something that’s true or who is being deceptive?

Shri Mataji: First and foremost thing is, anybody who lives on your earnings is not a guru. A guru will never live on the earnings of his disciples. But here there are people who have built palaces, bought aircrafts and cars and this. I mean, this is something one should understand. It’s so, so open to you to understand. I mean, I cannot understand more obvious thing that this one is that it’s a parasitic living. And, you cannot have a parasites as your gurus. They can be parasites but not your gurus. That’s one of the things. And if you… [laughter] Continue Reading »

Question: Shri Mother, what are we doing here? What is the purpose of life on earth? What are human beings walking around on this planet for?

(From Radio Interview 1983 Oct 01, Santa Cruz USA)
Interviewer: Shri Mataji, what are we doing here? What is the purpose of life on earth? What are human beings walking around on this planet for?

Shri Mataji: You are specially made by God. You are specially chosen by God to be human beings and you are here with a very great purpose. The first purpose of God is that you should become the vehicle of God’s powers,completely. So that He flows through you, He flows into this atmosphere, into this universe, to make it a divine place. When you get Realization, what happens? These – all your abnormalities drop out and you become very normal person and these vibrations of Cool Breeze start flowing. With this now you can give it to Mother Earth, you can give it to the plants, you can give it to the trees. The whole thing becomes a “Garden of Allah” where you reside in complete joy and happiness.

The second purpose is that God has prepared you now to settle into His The Garden of Eden, Erastus Salisbury Field, 1865. CGFA.Kingdom. That’s your throne. That’s your right to be there. It could have been short circuited at a time when Adam and Eve were called and told not to go into this so-called “book of knowledge” or the “fruit of knowledge.” But they didn’t listen, you see. If you give freedom to someone then, “What’s wrong?” So, they started doing things which were brought to them by a satanic force and they accepted it. So, that was the original sin we have committed. So, they had to take incarnations, do all those things and now brought it to this level where human beings have to be brought again back to the position where they were to go.

Question: Mother, what does it mean to open the last center?

(From Radio Interview 1983 Oct 01, Santa Cruz USA)

Interviewer: What does it mean to open the last center (the Sahasrara chakra)?

Shri Mataji: The Sahasrara. Last center is the center which is the limbic area where is the seat of all the seven centers. It’s all integration there. So far, everybody who has come – like, Christ has come on this center what you call the Agnya Chakra. Or, Krishna has come on this center which is the Vishuddhi Chakra. Like that, they have been appearing on every center of ours – giving us a new dimension to our awareness. And, that’s how our awareness has improved to this extent and now the time is for you to get your Absolute; to get your Spirit – that your Spirit must shine into your attention, that you should have your Self-Realization, that you should have your second birth. That’s the time! And, that is only possible if baptism, the real baptism works out – real. Not artificial – somebody coming and putting the hand on your head and saying, “Now, you are baptized.” That’s not the way. But it is a real thing that happens that you start feeling the Cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost coming out.

So, then I started giving first of all Realization without confronting any kind of a position or anything. I started with one lady. Then I went ahead with it. Then the first twelve people got Realization. Then I was very happy because en masse Realization has started. Then gradually it started working out. I went to Indian villages. I thought they are better simple people. First work on the simpler people and they got Realization. Now, we have thousands of people in the villages who have got Realization. They have dropped out all their bad habits. They have become very creative. They are doing very well. They are very happy. And, they are experts. So many of them are experts, I can say, in India now whom we call as Sahaja Yogi, maybe in thousands. Some are working in the villages; some are working in some cities. So, we have lots of people now in India who can do this job.

Interviewer:  This all happened since 1970?

Shri Mataji: I started it.

Interviewer: You started?

Shri Mataji: Yeah.

Question: Shri Mataji, You are called “Mother.”…. what is this meaning?

(From Radio Interview 1983 Oct 01, Santa Cruz USA)
Interviewer: ShriMataji, You are called “Mother.” And, it seems in the Hindu tradition there’s a special context or meaning of the word “Mother.” What is this meaning?

Shri Mataji, the MotherShri Mataji: You see, in the Indian philosophy, even in the Christian philosophy it is so, but it has been little bit changed. If you read the books of Essene, you will find they have described the “Mother.” You see, the Holy Ghost is the Mother. When they say about the Holy Ghost, She is the Mother. But how can you have… You must reason it out. How can you have a father and a son without a mother? [laughter] It’s a, you see, simple thing like that. You see, so it’s the Mother only. Holy Ghost is very important. So, Holy Ghost is the Mother, you see. It’s absurd thing, I mean, to have such a thing. Even homosexuals cannot have children. It’s funny thing, isn’t it. Absolutely absurd! But Christians accepted this. I don’t know why. Why didn’t they go into find out what is this Holy Ghost business is? They said, “It’s a mystery.” How can you say it’s a mystery? When you cannot explain then better not say anything about it. So, Holy Ghost is something hanging in the air. No one knows; it’s a mystery, and the rest of it is the father and the son. It’s absurd!

Now, the principle of Mother is in every, every scripture – has to be there. Now, the Mother’s character is that She is the One Who is the Womb, She is the One Who is the Mother Earth and She is the One Who nourishes you. She nourishes us, you know that. And, this feminine thing in every human being resides as this Kundalini, as you have seen. And, when She rises, She gives you this new awareness which becomes compassion, which is flowing, which becomes soothing, nourishing energy of love. And, that’s what today people are saying feminist this thing and all that. That’s again a pendulum – a man becoming a woman, woman becoming man – all this problem there are because of this. But when you move spirally upward, then where do you move? You become a personality full of compassion, of love, of universal understanding through collective consciousness. And, then you rise up to a position where you become universally conscious. So, that is what should happen to you, and if that happens then we should say that your motherly qualities within you have risen and that’s what we have so far neglected. You do not become a woman but you become motherly. First the father, then the son, and now the mother! All right?

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