Sahaja Yoga Meditation… Questions & Answers

Interviewer: How did you begin?

Shri Mataji: I was born like this. I was born with the same awareness as we call as a Self Realized Soul. But I knew that I’ve to do some job about it. To give Realization to one person is easy, but to give it to a mass is very difficult. So I had to understand human beings, how I could manage a en-masse Realization. And then I learnt it, found out, discovered it, and now I can give en-masse Realization. Specially in India even if there are 6000 people, at least 4000 people get Realization. But, how many look after their sprouted seed, is their look-out. You cannot force them. So, some of them do become great trees, but some are very slow.

Interviewer: So, you are talking about God as a real entity, as an existing entity. God, I mean, is existing, is something for you?
Shri Mataji: Of course.

Interviewer: Yes.
Shri Mataji: Of course He exists.

Interviewer: Excuse me that I’m asking this [it was not clear for me ?].
Shri Mataji: No, no, it’s correct, it’s correct, it’s correct. No, no, what I am saying is true.

But I would say in modern times, as Buddha didn’t want to talk about God, I didn’t talk about God for at least two years. Tried to avoid, because in modern times if you talk about God half of the people would leave the hall. But gradually now I convinced them about the existence of God, God exists.

You have ask just a question, it’s like a computer when you are a Realized Soul. Ask a question. If you say, “Mother, is there God?” Vibrations start coming. Supposing, relatively you see (Shri Mataji laughing & laughter), you put your hands and ask me a question, that’s it. Now you ask another question, like say, supposing somebody comes before me, they start shaking like this. And you say that you are following a false guru, that’s why you are shaking. Then the person will say, “How do you say, that because I am shaking maybe because I have my powers.” So you get another one who’s suffering from lunatic asylum, coming from lunacy, you see, you ask him – he will also shake. So relatively you see what you are. It has happened many a times with us, you see.

In Poona, they’ve said that, “You are not a Brahmin,” and all that. But they never told me, these boys never told me. We were having a program. And suddenly I said, “Who are Brahmins among you?” So five, six of them came and sat before me, “We are Brahmins.” I said, “All right, you are Brahmins, now put your hands towards me.” They started shaking like this. So I said, “Why are you shaking?” So, of course being Indians they said, “Because You are Shakti so we are shaking.” I said, “All right, but why are you shaking, nobody is shaking except for you?” They said, “See, the others are shaking there.” I asked them who are they. So, they said, “We are certified mad people from a lunatic asylum, have come because one person has been cured by You.” (Shri Mataji laughing) So the Brahmins kept all right. This is what it is. (Laughter) I must say the Divine comes to my help, you know. Otherwise these fanatics they think no end of themselves. They think God is in their pockets.

Interviewer: Okay.
Shri Mataji: I am happy you are for New Age. But try to understand where is the New Age. Everything has a camouflage. Everything has a camouflage. When I went to America, people told me that, “Mother, you better get your copyright.” I said, “What copyright?” “You must get copyright, otherwise they will use Your words.“ I said, “Let them use it, it’s a very good idea. Why should I take credit for anything? Let them use.” So they are saying vibrations, they are talking chakras, they are talking this. But what about Kundalini rising? – They can’t do it. They can’t do it. That’s the only point. They are using all my words, if you listen to My lectures long time back, you see, they are using all my words, they are using all my knowledge, everything. But that’s superficial. That’s all superficial. You have to have your Realization. And there is no harm. You take your Realization and you give Realizations to others. But if you want to make money with my words, if you want to make an organization with my words, then I can’t help you, I am sorry. That’s it.

Interviewer: So would you see it as, I mean to come back to the question of the New Age, is one of the signs of New Age that you are travelling around?
Shri Mataji: Nothing, this is the New Age I have started. You see, we had a very great artist from India who came here, he is a shennai player. He is a Muslim gentleman. He said, “These are all [Khalists ?], these are all pure people, Khalists people. So you are making a Khalistan here.” I said, “Yes, this is the Khalistan which Nanaka has described.” So he said, “What are they making?” I said, “You go and ask them what are they making? Where there is war and killing and all that going on, there is no Khalistan. These are Khalists, the pure people. And it’s described in all the prophecies.

In India there was a prophecy done by a very old astrologer. I think, he was the first – he is the pioneer of astrology. And he is the one who said, “Such and such time is going to come, and that Kundalini is going to be awakened, and that people are going to get this blessing, and this will be the New Age, and that people will become realized other people.” Even William Blake has so clearly said. William Blake has said, “God of men,” I mean, His prophecies are to such a detailed thing, that even in London where our Ashram will be he has described. To that extent. So it’s all there.

Interviewer: So is this Kundalini the same like Atman?
Shri Mataji: No, Atma is Spirit in the heart. Now I’ll tell you from the another side, so you will understand. See, we can say that God Almighty is reflected within your heart as Atma, all right? And the Kundalini is the power of God. She is desire that we all should get our Realization. She is reflected in you as Kundalini, as the Holy Ghost. So this Kundalini has to rise and meet the Atma, because though it is in the heart, the seat of Atma is here in the center, here in the fontanel bone area. That’s why She has to rise and touch it, so the connection is established.

Interviewer: For me it was unclear, because it is said that the Atman is the one which is inside you and always is awaiting that you discover it.
Shri Mataji: Yes that’s the way.

Interviewer: Yeah.
Shri Mataji: Now, I would give an analogy. In modern times we have lots of analogies. You can see in a gas, you see. Now the gas is the energy. For example. Let’s see the Kundalini is the energy, and there is a little light flickering. When this gas meets that light your attention becomes enlightened. Just an analogy up to a point you should see it.

Interviewer: I see an explosion happening when gas meets the light. This is exactly my question.
Shri Mataji: No, there is no explosion, no explosion, because they understand, they know. Actually you will be surprised how beautifully She works. How She comes into you. Like somebody has an obstruction on the Nabhi chakra. You’ll be surprised She pulsates, even in the triangular bone, just like a heart. And She suggests to you that this is the problem, now try to correct. Any problem She suggests, and She is so beautiful, the way She handles so gently your personality, She never wants to harm you in any way, if there’s too much obstruction She goes down.

Interviewer: You mean it’s a force that wants equilibrium?
Shri Mataji: Yes, you have to have balance, you have to have equilibrium. If the balance is upside down, if there is any obstruction because of that imbalances, She suggests, She tells you.

Interviewer: What is the place of morality in your system?
Shri Mataji: It’s innate. It’s innate. I don’t have to tell you, “Don’t do this, don’t do that,” it’s all innate with you. As soon as you get the light you drop the snakes. That’s all. You don’t have to ask Me, it just works out. The morality part works by itself, it’s innate. You know that this if do I’ll lose my vibrations. It’s just innate. You become moral without My telling you.

Interviewer: I see. Now this is really a completely different way than the tradition says because tradition says, it is a very hard way,
Shri Mataji: No, no.

Interviewer: It’s a very hard way –
Shri Mataji: No, no.

Interviewer: and you have to behave in certain ways.
Shri Mataji: No, no.

Interviewer: Yama and Niyama.
Shri Mataji: Yama Niyama is all right, because this was thousands of years back, you see. Hatha Yoga started thousands of years back. For that they used to select one or two persons for Realization. At the time of Rama, this was one only Nachiketa who went to . He was the only person who could give Realization. And also Nachiketa he made him run up and down, he hung a sword on his head , did everything, (Shri Mataji laughing) and then he gave him Realization. So it was a different thing. Today the time is different, as I say it’s the Blossomtime, times have changed.

Interviewer: And you mean they have improved?
Shri Mataji: You see, we have ripened. We have matured. You have gone through all those experiences. We have done all Hatha Yoga, everything – in last lives. And now this is the time for you to get your fruits.