(From Radio Interview 1983 Oct 01, Santa Cruz USA)
Interviewer: ShriMataji, You are called “Mother.” And, it seems in the Hindu tradition there’s a special context or meaning of the word “Mother.” What is this meaning?
Shri Mataji: You see, in the Indian philosophy, even in the Christian philosophy it is so, but it has been little bit changed. If you read the books of Essene, you will find they have described the “Mother.” You see, the Holy Ghost is the Mother. When they say about the Holy Ghost, She is the Mother. But how can you have… You must reason it out. How can you have a father and a son without a mother? [laughter] It’s a, you see, simple thing like that. You see, so it’s the Mother only. Holy Ghost is very important. So, Holy Ghost is the Mother, you see. It’s absurd thing, I mean, to have such a thing. Even homosexuals cannot have children. It’s funny thing, isn’t it. Absolutely absurd! But Christians accepted this. I don’t know why. Why didn’t they go into find out what is this Holy Ghost business is? They said, “It’s a mystery.” How can you say it’s a mystery? When you cannot explain then better not say anything about it. So, Holy Ghost is something hanging in the air. No one knows; it’s a mystery, and the rest of it is the father and the son. It’s absurd!
Now, the principle of Mother is in every, every scripture – has to be there. Now, the Mother’s character is that She is the One Who is the Womb, She is the One Who is the Mother Earth and She is the One Who nourishes you. She nourishes us, you know that. And, this feminine thing in every human being resides as this Kundalini, as you have seen. And, when She rises, She gives you this new awareness which becomes compassion, which is flowing, which becomes soothing, nourishing energy of love. And, that’s what today people are saying feminist this thing and all that. That’s again a pendulum – a man becoming a woman, woman becoming man – all this problem there are because of this. But when you move spirally upward, then where do you move? You become a personality full of compassion, of love, of universal understanding through collective consciousness. And, then you rise up to a position where you become universally conscious. So, that is what should happen to you, and if that happens then we should say that your motherly qualities within you have risen and that’s what we have so far neglected. You do not become a woman but you become motherly. First the father, then the son, and now the mother! All right?
Shri Mataji: In the evolutionary process a human being has come out of a small little unicellular animal called Amoeba as they say in the science. But what is the purpose of this becoming a human being? The purpose of his becoming a human being is that he has to become the spirit. This vehicle of a human body, mind, is to express the spirit within you. Self realization is the epitome of our evolution. So we all have to become self realized. Without self we are in darkness. We are not aware of the all pervading power which is doing all the living work. All kinds of living work things we can not do. What we do is the dead work or the mental projections which recoil back upon ourselves. We must get to self realization that’s the goal of human ascent from amoeba to this stage.
Question: Why have the churches not told us about this (Self_Realization)?
Shri Mataji: That was not the time Sir. Imagine Christ lived only for three and half years, in the sense that for his spiritual undertakings. He was allowed only for three and half years to live like that. Churches do not know it but even Christ, imagine for four years I was struggling with seven English boys and girls to give them Realisation. He did quite a good job, I must say still, but that was not the time. Christ actually came on this chakra, is the Agnya chakra. That was His time to show the way of resurrection. That was His life and that’s what He’s done. But the churches have missed the point. Churches have missed the point and they will go on missing the point because their main interest if it is how to make money, is not good. Or how to convert people is not good.
Question: Are there a lot of holy people in the church?
Shri Mataji: There could be many people who are very simple. Who believe in Christ, who go to churches because they believe that they will be saved. Continue Reading »
Q: With all the traveling do you miss your family?
Shri Mataji: No. [Shri Mataji laughs] My family is very sensible. And I travel, they also travel with me. My family, all of them, are here now in America. But my family is very sensible and they realize, they have realized that this is such a great work I’m doing. So they support me, they help me in every way. They are very supportive. And they like it and they enjoy it, enjoy all the people who have got realization. There’s a family, has the same ideas, or we can say the same feeling, for the world and they are very happy about it.
Question: Have any of your grandchildren or children had the same insight or born with the same insight as you?
Q: Have any of your grandchildren or children had the same insight or born with the same insight as you?
SHRI MATAJI: Yes, you see, I have also great-grandchildren. And I’m surprised that they are all born realized. They are born realized, that’s very surprising. And the family is so united, so helpful. And my great-grandchildren also have the vibrations, they understand. I mean its remarkable how the Divine has been kind to me, to give such a family. I have never neglected my family, never, but they understand that my work is very important and they also enjoy my work very much. They also feel the vibrations, they also have got realization.