Shri Mataji: No, nothing of the kind.
Question: How do you control the flow of thoughts as they keep flowing.
Shri Mataji: Yes that is what you don’t have to do, your Kundalini will do it. Your Kundalini will create that situation for you, you don’t have to do it.
Question: What are the ways and means to raise the Kundalini and what are the symptoms?
Shri Mataji: The first one is I’ll do it now, so you will see it’s nothing so special, but the second one is that when you get your Realization first thing that happens to you that you become thoughtlessly aware to begin with when it crosses over Agnya chakra and when it pierces through this one you can feel the cool breeze coming out of your head, you can feel the cool breeze around yourself.
Now all these fingers are shown there you can see. They denote your centers. Only you have to understand the decoding of it.
Now supposing you take ten children who are realized souls and you tie their eyes and ask them: “What’s the matter with this gentleman?” Immediately, they will all raise the same finger, supposing they raise this finger and you ask that person: “Are you suffering from bronchitis?” They’ll say: “Yes, how do you know?” So, all these centers are decoded and once they are decoded if you know the decoding, if you know how to decode it, then it’s so easy, very easy you find out.
So this is the only thing we have to know about the decoding part of it, what is the center we are catching, what is the center others are catching? Now if you know how to correct the centers, you are all right. And the others are all right. It’s very simple it’s either left side or right side. Only two problems, basically.
Question: What can you say to them about how to become a realized soul, how to achieve this Cool Breeze?
Interviewer: The listeners who will be tuning in to this program on the radio won’t have had the experience of being in Your presence. Some of them may have who were in this room. What can you say to them about how to become a realized soul, how to achieve this Cool Breeze that comes from…
Shri Mataji: At the beginning of My lecture, if you tell them that they should put their hands towards the radio. Just on the radio. They might feel the If they don’t feel it, then tell them to put the right hand first till they feel the cool breeze, and left hand up as if ventilating out. And, then the left hand towards the radio and the right hand up. It might work out because it has worked in Hong Kong. [laughter]
Interviewer: I’ll tell You something interesting. I interviewed Danny and Doug (Sahaja Yogis) before You came so that listeners would have a chance to come here. And, one of them called me and said that he went into meditation in the afternoon and felt the Cool Breeze just by hearing them talk.
Shri Mataji: See, if Sahaja Yogis can do it then when I’m talking it should happen. [laughter]
Question: Someone once said to spread the word of God using our thoughts and our actions. I just want to know what is thought about that statement.
Shri Mataji: First you should get connected to God. If you are not connected to God, whatever you are doing in the name of God may not be. First point is we should be connected. Supposing this instrument [pointing to microphone] is here, and if it is not connected it has no meaning. In the same way our God’s work has no meaning because we are not yet connected. First get connected to His power.
Question: Do you leave the present plane of consciousness, just by getting to the Realisation (through Sahaja Yoga)….
(Public Lecture, Brisbane 5th May, 1987)
Question: Do you leave the present plane of consciousness, just by getting to the Realisation (through Sahaja Yoga). I have come here to learn but it shouldn’t happen that you lose your present plane of consciousness.
Shri Mataji: No you don’t lose it. No, no nothing like that happens. Actually, what happens that you get an additional new awareness within yourself. You are very much there. Very much alert. Absolutely aware but you get an additional awareness which is of the Spirit. You don’t lose anything like that.
Say now, for example, you have a brother. Now you have not very good feelings for him, say for example. When you get your Realisation you see that he is a good boy and you forgive him with your heart, and you love him and you forget that what was wrong with him. You see the good points about him because you become absolute. Your judgement differs. You laugh at yourself. What was wrong with him is no more. I was wrong at that time. You don’t mind accepting that point. I was wrong, not now, I was.
Another thing is, supposing you have a particular habit, and you can’t get over it, it’s impossible, even if you want to you cannot. Now you are so powerful you don’t look at it, you don’t want to have it anymore. You just don’t like it. I would say this way, that an animal can pass through a dirty lane, it doesn’t feel the dirt or filth or anything, doesn’t smell anything. But a human being cannot. In the same way the realised soul doesn’t like anything that is wrong. It becomes righteous automatically. Virtuous automatically and is not asserting that on anyone. They are virtuous, they are righteous and they live in their own glory. This is how the awareness takes a beautiful turn.