Interviewer: Shri Mataji, what is Sahaja Yoga? I mean, what is the main idea of it?
Shri Mataji: Sahaja, Saha means with, Ja means born. Born with you. That is spontaneous. Yoga means Union with the Divine. Now, many people in the modern times won’t believe there’s anything like Divine. But supposing I say, “There is,” with an open mind of a scientist you must accept it as a hypothesis to begin with. Now, we have the Divine power, very subtle power everywhere, but we can’t feel it. With our human awareness we cannot feel it. With human awareness we also don’t know the absolute truth, we live in a relative world. So there has to be a breakthrough. And the breakthrough has to take place in our evolutionary process. And Sahaja Yoga is the method which gives you that breakthrough.
Interviewer: How does it do this?
Shri Mataji: Now, within us is placed – is a energy which we call as Kundalini in Sanskrit language, which is a residual energy in the triangular bone called as Sacrum also means sacred bone, so maybe the Greeks knew about it. It rises like a primule in a seed, passes through six centers and pierces through the last one here and gives you what we call as the Self Realization or real baptism – real. Continue Reading »
Question: Do we have to change our lifestyle in Sahaja Yoga?
Shri Mataji: No, not the lifestyle, you see when you do what is needed for you, what is good for you , nobody has to change dresses or anything it’s nothing outside. But supposing you see now if I tell somebody now don’t wear such tight dresses, nobody would listen, because they will wear varicose veins and this all had happened. Then now they’re wearing very, very loose ones.
Now in England there was a fashion came up when people were having holey pants with the holes. Imagine, I mean it’s such a cold country to have holes in it, I mean, it’s stupidity isn’t it? But nobody will listen and also these people came with punks and this and that, and if you talk to them they’ll say: “What’s wrong?” So, best thing is to raise their Kundalini then they themselves understand what’s wrong with them.
Nothing has to be changed as such outside, but you yourself take to things which are sensible, which are wise, which are good for you, you yourself take to it, I don’t have to tell you anything about it.
Question: Most people say that from their previous experiences they find that it is not possible to have a moment or so where there is no thought.
Shri Mataji: Is true. You cannot till the Kundalini is awakened, you can’t have. You see one thought rises and falls another thought rises and falls. There’s a little space in between which we call in Sanskrit as Vilumba, very little spaces. Now what happened with Kundalini awakening, both these thoughts become elongated and this Vilumba increases. So you will automatically have that. You won’t have to worry about that. (Public Lecture, Brisbane 5th May, 1987)
Interviewer: So can you give me some not private details on your family’s life. I read as well in your bio, that now your daughters are married, and then you started to do what you are doing nowadays. So did you influence them as they were kids? Or when did you start to create your theory, your yoga?
Shri Mataji: No, I was quite aware of it from My very childhood. And I took My birth in a Protestant Christian religion, you see, My father and mother were enlightened people, especially My father was a very enlightened person, and actually he told Me what sort of work I’ll have to do, because what problems I’ll have with human beings, because he told Me how human beings are, their problems are, what permutations and combinations they have. And then as a custom in India I had to marry also and I married a very nice man, and then I had children. And I thought that unless and until I reach a certain age, I should not start talking about it, because at a young age people may not take it up seriously.
But apart from that I had another problem that I found that human beings have certain permutations and combinations of barriers and Continue Reading »
Interviewer: I did read in the Press Communiqué that one of your topics is the topic of Guru, of gurus. Gurus, false gurus. Now what are they? How do you discriminate a false guru and a genuine Guru?
Shri Mataji: Yes, I’ve been talking against them since I think, 1970 very openly, even naming them. It’s very easy to make them out, you see, they are out for money. It’s the shopping. And they are out for money. They know the need of the hour. It’s like the demand and supply business, you see. It’s an economic activity. And, anybody who asks for money, one must know it’s not real.
Now, for example, your Realization is a living process. And we don’t pay any money to the Mother Earth to sprout the seed. Of course, but say, supposing, these people have started this Ashram. Now, here there are so many living. I don’t know how they spend, how they live, it is their lookout. They know all accounts, everything, I don’t bother. I am very bad at money myself. And also, you see they are the ones who collect money, and put up the posters and things like that. But for Realization I cannot take money, for curing you I cannot take money. I mean, there’s no question, you cannot value it. This has no economic value.
Interviewer: So you would say the discrimination is if somebody is interested in money – or not?
Shri Mataji: First. First chance. Second you must see the life style of such a person. Supposing such a man leads a very funny life, immoral life. And tells you big stories, then you should know that this is wrong, because a person who himself is not pure has no business to make others pure. There are many things described about false gurus in our scriptures, thank God. And so if you see their behaviour, that they say something and do something else. And they have scandalous life behind it. But the disciples just hide it, because they think, now we have jumped in the sea so let us have it. They just go through it. They are exposed, so many of them are so badly exposed, but still their disciples find it difficult to get out, because they are under their control, their spell. They know that this man is wrong. He has done so much wrong. Like Rajneesh, now see, he has been found out. There are so many Germans who go to him, in Poona. And about this man I told long time back that he is wrong type of person.