(From Radio Interview 1983 Oct 01, Santa Cruz USA)
Interviewer: I have a question that’s important to me and to many people who are searching for something or seeking perhaps, what you call, Self Realization or Sahaja Yoga or something. Some of us don’t know exactly what it is. But we find that there are many teachers. How do we recognize those teachers that you might call fraudulent from the real ones? It’s so difficult because they all seem to be able to inspire us in certain ways and give us experiences. How do we know who is teaching something that’s true or who is being deceptive?
Shri Mataji: First and foremost thing is, anybody who lives on your earnings is not a guru. A guru will never live on the earnings of his disciples. But here there are people who have built palaces, bought aircrafts and cars and this. I mean, this is something one should understand. It’s so, so open to you to understand. I mean, I cannot understand more obvious thing that this one is that it’s a parasitic living. And, you cannot have a parasites as your gurus. They can be parasites but not your gurus. That’s one of the things. And if you… [laughter] Continue Reading »
Question: Can you please tell us a little more about what we mean by the Spirit and how that is related to our consciousness, and how the two things are linked by Self-realization?
Shri Mataji: It’s a good question. Spirit is the reflection of God Almighty within us. It’s said that, He has made human beings in His Own Image. Now we should not get confused with the word image. Image means the reflection. So we reflect God Almighty. We are not God but we reflect. Image is different from the actual thing. So now, when you are, as a human being, then the Spirit is just a witness in the heart watching you, and the seat of the God Almighty is here, and He is reflecting in human heart. He’s just watching, He’s a witness, He doesn’t come into your attention, He’s watching you.
But when Realization takes place when Kundalini pierces through this, then it starts flowing into our attention, the light of the Spirit. Attention that we have is the consciousness. We have general consciousness a human consciousness you can say, which is, expressed through our central nervous system. The conscious mind is enlightened, it becomes a dynamic force, and gradually your beauty your glory starts opening and recording what you are on your conscious mind which is an enlightened one. It’s a very good question, but it requires more time, but as it is I would say first you get your Realization and gradually you will know how your conscious mind has become so alert.
You must pray, to God and ask, what you want. Ask for “complete satisfaction in my heart, joy in my heart, bliss in my heart, so that the whole world becomes blissful. Give me love, love that I could… love the whole world and that the whole world becomes one in love. Give salvation to this… humanity. Which is suffering. Take me to your feet. Cleanse me with… with thy love.”
Now see if there is God or not? You can feel him within yourself. He hears you. He understands you. He’s the glory of all the glory. He loves you. He protects you. He guides you. He created you to reveal His love, but accept it.
Any time any thought is coming you pray and you will be moving in the waves of that ocean which is unconscious mind, which starts with thoughtless awareness.
If you cannot become thoughtless, you pray: forgive me for what I have done and forgive those who have done harm to me.
Question: Shri Mother, what are we doing here? What is the purpose of life on earth? What are human beings walking around on this planet for?
(From Radio Interview 1983 Oct 01, Santa Cruz USA)
Interviewer: Shri Mataji, what are we doing here? What is the purpose of life on earth? What are human beings walking around on this planet for?
Shri Mataji: You are specially made by God. You are specially chosen by God to be human beings and you are here with a very great purpose. The first purpose of God is that you should become the vehicle of God’s powers,completely. So that He flows through you, He flows into this atmosphere, into this universe, to make it a divine place. When you get Realization, what happens? These – all your abnormalities drop out and you become very normal person and these vibrations of Cool Breeze start flowing. With this now you can give it to Mother Earth, you can give it to the plants, you can give it to the trees. The whole thing becomes a “Garden of Allah” where you reside in complete joy and happiness.
The second purpose is that God has prepared you now to settle into His Kingdom. That’s your throne. That’s your right to be there. It could have been short circuited at a time when Adam and Eve were called and told not to go into this so-called “book of knowledge” or the “fruit of knowledge.” But they didn’t listen, you see. If you give freedom to someone then, “What’s wrong?” So, they started doing things which were brought to them by a satanic force and they accepted it. So, that was the original sin we have committed. So, they had to take incarnations, do all those things and now brought it to this level where human beings have to be brought again back to the position where they were to go.
Question: You talk about our habits and weakness and how to overcome that. Can You talk a little bit more about it?
Shri Mataji: See, we are weak because we are ignorant first of all. As I told you, we are holding the snake and there’s darkness and in that darkness we don’t see that this is going to bite us. But, when you become enlightened, you become a very powerful, dynamic person, absolutely. And you separate yourself from your habits. You see it very clearly. Then you don’t talk that “I have this habit or that habit.” You don’t say like that.
Like a person would come and say, “Mother, you know, my Agnya is catching; this chakra is catching. That means I have too much ego.”
But they don’t say, “I have ego.” I mean if you tell somebody, “You have ego,” they’ll hit you hard, isn’t it? But if a person gets it, he feels it. And he says, “Mother, I have too much problem with the Agnya Chakra so please clear it up.”
So, if you have any habits – say supposing there are people who used to take drugs. In the beginning I had horrible people in England, about seven of them, all drug addicts and things. Of course, very well-educated, professors and things, but all drug addicts, hippies and violent people, really. When they came to Me, it was not easy to handle them. But they are today the foundation of Sahaja Yoga. Wonderful people they are. Now what happened, they said, “We want to get rid of it but we can’t. We just can’t help it.”
But you will be amazed, overnight they gave up, overnight. Just it happens because you see the light and you throw the snake, just happens. You don’t have to think about it, just happens. I never tell them these Ten Commandments – don’t do this, don’t do that. Don’t tell them. Just it works from within. Why should I tell them? Why should I give them a lecture? There’s no need. They themselves become their own master and the mastery is that the master cures and gives you powers. You develop that dignity; it’s remarkable what happens. To Me, it’s not a surprise because I know what you are. You are so glorious.
It’s like you take a small little, say a television to a remote corner of India and in some village and show them and say that “Here is a place, this box will show you all the kinds of music and all kinds of dramas and this.”
They say, “What? This box? How is it going to work out?”
And, you put it to the mains and it starts working and they say, “It’s fantastic.”
It’s like that. We are fantastic, we are glorious but we have yet to be connected, that’s all. It just happens, you don’t have to force yourself, you don’t have to do anything. It just works. The inner force works it out.