Interviewer: Who do you consider to be the right person for yoga (Self-Realization)? Is there a group of people that’s easier to be caught by yoga or is it for everybody, or is it a question of the personal education of the mind?
Shri Mataji: No, education is not at all required. The simpler you are, the better it is. Sometimes education can be a barrier, because you see you miss the point, as I would say, if you are too overeducated, could miss the point but if you have that intelligence and that innocent intelligence, which is so sharp, it sees the point very easily. But a person who is over-intelligent, can be ego–oriented, you see, and a person who could be say very much conditioned and has ritualistic who has faith, blind faith in things is also difficult.
So you have to have a very simple person who is an open-minded person. Scientific in outlook, I should say, would be better but most of the people I meet are – such kind – are mostly in the villages in India or say places where not so much of so called artificiality, sophistication is gone, they’re normal human beings, and they live down to earth.
Q: Is reincarnation necessary until Self-Realisation is attained?
Shri Mataji: That is again, you are thinking about the past. You see, why to worry? You have reincarnated many-a-times. No doubt about it. But now, this is the point: at this point, where are you? There’s no need to have reincarnations, who is going to count? From amoeba to this stage how many times reincarnated why do you want to know? Forget it. At this time you have to have your spirit, enlightened. Alright? Forget about the past. Just forget it. And then we start to …. specially in India, they’ll ask Me, ‘Was I a king? Was I this? Was I that?’ I said, ‘I am not bothered about the history.’
There was a boy … very scholarly … he came and asked Me, ‘Mother was I Napoleon in last life?’ I said, ‘Why?’ He said, ‘Even if I was don’t tell me, otherwise I’ll jump in the sea.’ I said, ‘No, why, why what makes you think that way?’ He said, ‘Because I’m very ego-oriented, my ego is colossal and another point is I’m very good at drawing so I think these two combinations are only possible in a Napoleon.’ I said, ‘No, no, you were not Napoleon, don’t you worry.’ He said, ‘Otherwise I will jump in the sea and take another incarnation!’ So don’t worry about these things, alright? It can be quite deviating. There is a big show going on, I agree there. ‘What was my last life?’ Somebody said, ‘You were in Egypt’ – what does it matter? Whether you were in Egypt or Timbuktu, what does it matter? You, this is a big a story going on, people paying money … now tell me what is … and they are telling also very nicely about this, you see?
You must ask a question, ‘What were you last time?’ Must have been a donkey! Otherwise, why is he taking money for this?
Question: What would be the effect of increasing number of Sahaja Yogis on the economic system and the lifestyle of the country where the increase of Sahaja Yogis takes place?
Shri Mataji: Oh, it just triggers everything. For example, now what are our problems? We see the economic problems of this country is. I have understood it so well that we have so much of a, say, ores and all other things like silver we have here, and gold and all kinds of things we have, and the ones who are exploiting us are Americans and nobody sees the point. Nobody sees the point. While those who will get Sahaja Yogis, they will become so dynamic. They will put in their own industries here. Why send it? Why make cars in America? Why not make them here? So many things can happen because you become so dynamic and there’s so many people to help you all over that this is what should happen. After all, you have all kinds of things available here. Why should you send your aluminum to America, to be drawn into wires and beaten into sheets? There’s no need. We can do it ourselves.
Question: What method can you use for a lay person? It’s very difficult to develop this sensitivity.
Shri Mataji: You see but that’s what it is in the Kali Yuga, in these modern times only, when we are surrounding by all these things, we get into confusions and illusions and this kind of a subhranth stithi as they call it in Sanskrit language, is very important because in that only we have started seeking. Can you imagine Christ had only twelve disciples, only twelve, so how many were there seekers, and all these great gurus, how many disciples they had who were realized souls, very few.
So, today is a special time, is already described, if you are an Indian you’ll know from Naladamyanti. The Nala once got hold of this Kali and he said, “I must kill you because you have tortured me, you have separated me from my wife and you are the one who create all this confusion.” So he said, “All right you can do it but you must know my importance my mahatmyam.” He said, “What is your importance?” He said, “At the time when I’ll be ruling” means modern times “at that time those people who are seeking the truth in the valleys and on the Himalayas will find it while they’ll be householders and they’ll find it.”
It’s already described in Indian if you have read also the Nadigranth is described that this was going to happen, everything in details has been described. If you have read William Blake you will find he has described it, Lewis has described, so many people have described these times and have called it as Aquarius Time because this Kundalini is inside the triangular bone which is the Aquarius, is known as the Aquarius, I mean they are talking about it, but instead of beating the bush you see, we should really get to it. Get to it.
Shri Mataji: No, no, no, not language of animals, no, no. That’s not true. This center of chakra is guarded by Jagadamba, the Mother of the Earth, Mother of the Universe is here. But this has got the antibodies, this chakra creates antibodies. Antibodies are what we call them Ganas are. They can fight your diseases. And that’s what is created by this chakras. And now, for example, AIDS, I will come on AIDS. AIDS is caused by the deficiency of this chakra and also of the first chakra. If you could manage these two chakras you can cure AIDS also.
Interviewer: Yeah, but this is also one of the abilities which are stored in here.
Shri Mataji: Yes, but with the animals, you don’t have to talk to them, but they understand you through your vibrations. You have such vibrations that animals know that you are a Realized Soul. A serpent will know, a horse will know, a dog will know – but not all of them. Some of them can be sinister also. But they are frightened of you, if they are sinister, they are frightened. But if they are good, then they’ll come to you and will be very nice to you. But I would not say we understand their language or anything, but we understand each others’ heart. (Shri Mataji laughing)
Interviewer: That’s a lot.
Shri Mataji: Yes, that’s the love, because that’s the mother’s – that’s the mother’s center. It’s very important center. But as a result of the defect in this center women can develop a kind of a trouble with their breasts. Breast cancer is caused by that. So many problems are caused with the deficiency of this center.