Public Lecture (Miami USA ’90)
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Question: I want to know what qualifies someone to be a guru? And, what makes you do the work you do?
Shri Mataji: Oh, because I love it! It’s so beautiful to see people getting their Realization. You will also do the same once you get it, it’s so beautiful. The most beautiful thing is to give Realization to someone and so joyous because if you are selfish, if you are low type of a person then you feel funny about yourself, but if you are benevolent you feel so happy about the whole thing, you enjoy your benevolence, you enjoy your virtues. Just start enjoying and that’s only possible after Realization, then you just do it, I know why am I doing it, what should I do otherwise? I mean what I’m saying that supposing somebody else can do this I would like to retire myself but it’s difficult to get someone like that. I’m sorry to say. Can you do it madam for my sake? You can’t that’s the point.
I’ve been trying for, now I’m
sixty-seven years of age. I wish somebody could take my place but doesn’t work that way. But in any case when you get your Realization at least try to give Realization to some people and you can do it, not difficult. But not at my level, that’s the point is, once you come to my level, I’ll be very happy to retire. [AUDIENCE LAUGHS]

Question: God and Spirit.. Is God reflected within us? How can man be one with God?
Shri Mataji: God and Spirit. Is correct. That’s correct. Very correct. God Almighty is reflected in your heart as Spirit. But without this connection you cannot feel that Spirit. Because I have not talked about the Spirit that’s why you must be thinking, but at the very outset, I said “You have to be the Spirit, first thing.” And, secondly I have also said that you have to feel this all-pervading Power. So, this connection when it is established, then only you start feeling your Spirit. And, the Spirit manifests through you. Is correct, what you said is absolutely correct. God is within you.
Quetion: So how do we go about experiencing this?
Shri Mataji: That’s what we are going to do, but if that is the point then I’m very happy, because you are a real seeker, I must say.
Question: How do you feel about people asking for money for spirituality?
Shri Mataji: Is correct, you see that’s a very correct question you asked me, that how do I travel because most of time my husband pays but now these people (Sahaja yogis) are feeling ashamed of themselves that how he should pay for your salvation so they pay to the airfare not to me, all right? To the what you call the travel agents, not to me, for this hall they have collected little money and they are paying for it. But, you would not like me to pay for your food, for your chairs, for everything. That’s not expected.
See if I have to travel they should pay, it’s in all self-esteem and in self-respect, but I did it for years together first when I came to America I came on my own, My husband paid for everything. Luckily he has money so and he thinks this is a good work so he pays for quite a lot of things, but that’s a different thing, that’s very different, that’s very little that they have to pay, that’s different and it’s all our accounts are known. I don’t know what they do, how they collect money, where they spend it, I don’t see, I’m very bad at accounts! I just don’t understand, but what I’m saying that sometimes if they want to pay for my travel it’s correct, because I think they must have self-respect, my husband shouldn’t pay for my travel, for this hall, for their food, for everything, is it proper? It’s not proper.
So, if you go to one extreme that you give thousand of pounds to somebody, because he gives you a funny mantra, and here people ask me who pays for the hall, I mean they must pay, don’t you think so, in self-respect you all must pay.
Question: What about vegetarianism? And, if you believe that by eating meat, war can ever be at peace, how can we achieve our spiritual breakthrough?
Shri Mataji: All right, you become vegetarian. All right? So it’s all right for you to become vegetarian and receive that all right?
Any ‘ism’ is against Sahaj Yoga, any ‘ism’ is against, ‘ism’ is a mental idea, it’s not the truth, it’s not reality, you have to face the reality as it is with your mental projections you do not do not conform to something. First of all find out what is right and what is wrong through your Spirit, in the light of the Spirit you find out and then you decide. It is no use before hand just to decide this is the thing and that is the thing.
You see this kind of nonsensical ideas people had so many to such an extent that in India we have Jainism in which they do not even kill the bugs or the mosquitoes or anything and they don’t want to go in the W.C.’s but they go onto some hills and the Mayor of Bombay came to ask Me: “What should we do about it?” Because they say that in our religion we cannot even kill these things which are being excreted out, so now we have to save them, imagine, we have to save human beings. Are we going to give Realizations to chickens or what?
You have to be sensible enough first of all to ask for your spiritual ascent and then decide, don’t decide before hand, it’s like the snake story I told you just now.
Question: Do you believe in reincarnation, because you say that some people in India won’t even kills bugs because they believe it’s reincarnation?
Shri Mataji: I? You see actually to be very frank you know I’ve become very clever. You see Christ talked, said, that He was the Son of God and I tell you He was, but you crucified Him, so I’m very clever. I’ll not talk about Myself. First you have your Self Realization because I don’t want to get crucified by any chance so you all first get your Realization and understand Me that is the best way.