Question: Mother, some questions about who You are; who were You as a child; what people influenced You…
(From Radio Interview 1983 Oct 01, Santa Cruz USA)
Interviewer: Mother, today there are many, many things said about Sahaja Yoga, about Your philosophy, and very little is said about who You are as a person. [Shri Mataji laughs] And, I thought it would be good to start out with some, some questions about who You are; who were You as a child; what people influenced You; what brought You to the place You are today as a Luminous Being sitting before me and before us.
Shri Mataji: I am a very ancient being – that problem is like this. [laughter] I had to… what can I tell you about Myself? I just don’t know what part will interest you, but only thing I can say that I was born with this understanding and awareness that I have to find out a method by which I could give en masse Realization to people. I was a Realized Soul, of course. I knew all about it from My very childhood. But the problem was that how to make many people get it, because if one person gets it or one person has it; if one person is an incarnation, people don’t understand it. Not only that but they may even try to destroy such a person. That’s what happened to all the saints who came on this earth. Christ was crucified; Mohammed Sahib was given poison – because they were
ignorant. They did not know what it was, what was He saying.
So, it was important first of all to find out a method how to give them en masse Realization, and from that angle I just thought that “this is why I am on this earth and I have to do this job” for which I wanted to study about human beings. I took My birth in a Christian family and that too a family which was Protestant family, because I felt that Protestants are fanatics but very sophisticated. [laughter] And, they rationalize everything to such an extent that nobody can see beyond it. So, I better take My birth in them and My father and mother had already taken birth whom I had chosen as My parents. They were great people, realized souls and specially My father was a person who knew why I was on this earth. Even My mother knew about it. Continue Reading »
Question: So, which God is for the Kundalini? Christ is over here (Agnya chakra). Which God is in the Kundalini? In the triangle?
(Sahaja Yogi: What is the God or the deity in the triangular bone, the Kundalini? )
Shri Mataji: Kundalini itself. The Kundalini is your own mother. Your individual mother. And She has tape-recorded all your past and your aspirations, everything. And She rises because She wants to give you your second birth, but She is your individual mother. You don’t share Her with anybody else. Yours is a different, somebody else’s is different. Because the tape-recording is different.
We say She is the reflection of the Adi Shakti who is called as Holy Ghost in the bible. But She rises without any difficulty. Hardly any time it takes.
Editor – This image depicts the rising of the Kundalini through the chakras (energy centres). The Kundalini is located in the triangular sacrum bone at the base of the spine. This process is part of the Self-Realization process that is offered through the Sahaja Yoga meditation technique.
Q: With all the traveling do you miss your family?
Shri Mataji: No. [Shri Mataji laughs] My family is very sensible. And I travel, they also travel with me. My family, all of them, are here now in America. But my family is very sensible and they realize, they have realized that this is such a great work I’m doing. So they support me, they help me in every way. They are very supportive. And they like it and they enjoy it, enjoy all the people who have got realization. There’s a family, has the same ideas, or we can say the same feeling, for the world and they are very happy about it.
Question: What is the difference between Sahaja Yoga and the other meditations such as Buddhist meditation, TM?
Shri Mataji: You see the Buddhism meditation, is the meditation that was followed at the time of Buddha, all right? That time you had to renounce everything, and go to His stupas into places where to meditate. Now the time has come, that you have to get your Realization. That is how He prepared the Buddhists to get their Self-realization, all right. So that was the beginning. Every religion, every religion said you must pray, you must balance yourself, every religion wanted to do that. That is at that stage, all right? But now, you have to get your Self-realization for which you have worked. Because He has talked of the future Buddha known as Maitreya and also Bodhisattva So this state is there. So that meditation is just the, ladder to reach the state where you can get your Self-realization, all right. So nothing wrong with that, but you have to go further with it.
Interviewer: Many of us have heard discussions or read in books about the evolution of matter, the evolution of substance. What are Your views on evolving matter and how does this relate to our own physical matter in our bodies, in our cells?
Shri Mataji: For the matter did go into evolution, you know that, and when the carbon was established, actually our first Chakra was established. That’s carbon which is tetravalent and carbon is the one which started producing amino acids, you see. When amino acid started manifesting itself this, then the other processes took place by which the evolution of,say, from amoeba to human stage took place. That also we understand very well after getting Realization, how we became from amoeba to human stage; and after human stage we have to achieve our Self Realization, means the Spirit which is in our heart has to manifest in our attention, or we have to feel it on central nervous system. But what is the relationship between matter and this? We should see that point. It’s important.
Now, through the matter all our centers are made. For example, the two centers that are down below are made of the Mother Earth principle. And, then another one and another one like that. All these elements have contributed to make the centers. And, these centers are just like mirrors made and the reflection of the Divine falls on them. Then, at a human level the matter improves so much, goes into such evolutionary processes, that the reflection at the heart level improves so much that the Spirit shines there,and the Kundalini is properly set for your evolution which is the epitome of evolution. Like this instrument that is made one by one first collecting this part, that part, that part then put together. Now the time has come for you to be put to the mains. Now, this has nothing to do with the electricity if you see. It exists without electricity but it can carry the electricity. In the same way, we become the lamp and when we become the lamp, the light can be brought in and we become enlightened. So, there is a big relationship between the lamp and the light but light cannot exist without the lamp, so lamp has to be there.