Interviewer: Is Kundalini a very, very intensive energy?
Shri Mataji: It is the energy of pure desire. It is an energy of pure desire within you. All other desires are impure, because no desire makes you satisfied. So this is an energy of pure desire within you. It is waiting all the time for your rebirth. And it has to be awakened by a person authorized by the Divine, not by any church, by any temple, by anyone, but a person who has the authority.
Interviewer: And You don’t think that the person who has the most authority to awaken one’s Kundalini is one single?
Shri Mataji: I shouldn’t say that, but just now I think I haven’t met another one, for the time being. But if I meet someone, I’ll be very happy. But somebody who has to have authority, the knowledge. Like all of them can raise the Kundalini as I can raise, no problem. All of them can. But if they start taking money they’ll lose the power. If they start misbehaving they’ll lose the power. That’s how the Kundalini is very intelligent. She understands. And She loves you and She will not allow you to do anything wrong. She coordinates, She cooperates. She is tremendous, no doubt, but she is not harmful, She loves you.
Interviewer: Now, I mean, an energy is something which is neutral?
Shri Mataji: She is not attached to you, but She loves you. In the sense there is in Her detachment She wants you to get your Realization. Because She is your mother and you have to have your Realization. That’s very important. That’s Her desire for ages now and that’s why you are a seeker, because She is there.
Interviewer: Who do you consider to be the right person for yoga (Self-Realization)? Is there a group of people that’s easier to be caught by yoga or is it for everybody, or is it a question of the personal education of the mind?
Shri Mataji: No, education is not at all required. The simpler you are, the better it is. Sometimes education can be a barrier, because you see you miss the point, as I would say, if you are too overeducated, could miss the point but if you have that intelligence and that innocent intelligence, which is so sharp, it sees the point very easily. But a person who is over-intelligent, can be ego–oriented, you see, and a person who could be say very much conditioned and has ritualistic who has faith, blind faith in things is also difficult.
So you have to have a very simple person who is an open-minded person. Scientific in outlook, I should say, would be better but most of the people I meet are – such kind – are mostly in the villages in India or say places where not so much of so called artificiality, sophistication is gone, they’re normal human beings, and they live down to earth.
Question: What would be the effect of increasing number of Sahaja Yogis on the economic system and the lifestyle of the country where the increase of Sahaja Yogis takes place?
Shri Mataji: Oh, it just triggers everything. For example, now what are our problems? We see the economic problems of this country is. I have understood it so well that we have so much of a, say, ores and all other things like silver we have here, and gold and all kinds of things we have, and the ones who are exploiting us are Americans and nobody sees the point. Nobody sees the point. While those who will get Sahaja Yogis, they will become so dynamic. They will put in their own industries here. Why send it? Why make cars in America? Why not make them here? So many things can happen because you become so dynamic and there’s so many people to help you all over that this is what should happen. After all, you have all kinds of things available here. Why should you send your aluminum to America, to be drawn into wires and beaten into sheets? There’s no need. We can do it ourselves.
SHRI MATAJI: How do we fight the ego. See, you should never fight ego. If you try to fight it, it will sit more on your head.
That’s not the way to fight it. That there is ego, and you fight your ego, “Oh I am going to box you”, then it will grow more, you see. The more you box it, the more it will grow. Never fight your ego. Only way is to see it.
Your attention is very important. Your attention is now enlightened. Whatever you see, it comes to its right size. It comes to its right size. Say ego, if it is overgrown, you just watch your ego. Best is to watch yourself in the mirror and you say, “Oh Mr. Ego, how do you do?” (laughter) Then it will come down. But don’t fight it. Just to be seen.
All kinds of egos could be there. If you are over-educated, you are egoistical. If you are uneducated, you are egoistical because you must try to show that you are something. All sorts of egos are there.
So best thing is to see for yourself. That’s why I say,” Face your self.” Your self means your Spirit.
QUESTION: Mother, is it the same for super ego?
SHRI MATAJI: Yes, very much so. For super ego also, not to be frightened. You should just say,” Get out! I can see you very clearly, you are there. You get out from here. How dare you frighten me, I am the Spirit. I am the Spirit. How dare you can do that.” That’s how.
You see, ego makes you idiotic, absolutely. Ego makes you idiotic, makes an idiot out of you, absolutely. And the super ego makes you a coward. It makes you a coward. Now how to fight it: “I’m not going to be an idiot,” if you say that, ego will go away. If you want to be an idiot, then he will be there to help you. If you want to be an idiot, all right, call Mr. Ego. You’ll become an idiot straightforward. Is the easiest way. Easiest way if you want to become an idiot, simple thing is to call the ego, “You come, Mr. Ego, and settle down in me”, and immediately… This is a very simple composition.
Question: What method can you use for a lay person? It’s very difficult to develop this sensitivity.
Shri Mataji: You see but that’s what it is in the Kali Yuga, in these modern times only, when we are surrounding by all these things, we get into confusions and illusions and this kind of a subhranth stithi as they call it in Sanskrit language, is very important because in that only we have started seeking. Can you imagine Christ had only twelve disciples, only twelve, so how many were there seekers, and all these great gurus, how many disciples they had who were realized souls, very few.
So, today is a special time, is already described, if you are an Indian you’ll know from Naladamyanti. The Nala once got hold of this Kali and he said, “I must kill you because you have tortured me, you have separated me from my wife and you are the one who create all this confusion.” So he said, “All right you can do it but you must know my importance my mahatmyam.” He said, “What is your importance?” He said, “At the time when I’ll be ruling” means modern times “at that time those people who are seeking the truth in the valleys and on the Himalayas will find it while they’ll be householders and they’ll find it.”
It’s already described in Indian if you have read also the Nadigranth is described that this was going to happen, everything in details has been described. If you have read William Blake you will find he has described it, Lewis has described, so many people have described these times and have called it as Aquarius Time because this Kundalini is inside the triangular bone which is the Aquarius, is known as the Aquarius, I mean they are talking about it, but instead of beating the bush you see, we should really get to it. Get to it.