Public Lecture (Brisbane Australia '87)

Question: How did you begin this Sahaja Yoga meditation, how were you initiated in this group?

(Public Lecture, Brisbane 5th May, 1987)
Shri Mataji: I was not initiated. I had this from my very childhood. You see I know you would like to know about me, but it’s better first you know yourself. Then you will know about me better. All right?

Question: Most people say that from their previous experiences they find that it is not possible to have a moment or so where there is no thought.

Shri Mataji: Is true.  You cannot till the Kundalini is awakened, you can’t have.  You see one thought rises and falls another thought rises and falls.  There’s a little space in between which we call in Sanskrit as Vilumba, very little spaces.  Now what happened with Kundalini awakening, both these thoughts become elongated and this Vilumba increases.  So you will automatically have that.  You won’t have to worry about that. (Public Lecture, Brisbane 5th May, 1987)

Question: Do you have to sit in any special posture while you are doing this (Sahaja Yoga meditation), or can it be done at any time and in any form?

Meditating by the sea

(Public Lecture, Brisbane 5th May, 1987)
Shri Mataji: No.  You see in this Sahaja Yoga you become the Spirit.  Then you don’t have to meditate much, about ten minutes or so is sufficient and there’s nothing much particular restriction or anything in it.  You can sit in any pose you like, there is no restriction of any kind.  Because you become the Spirit.  Only thing is you have to get into thoughtless awareness, that’s the first state is, which we call as Nivichara.  For that state to achieve you see you have to sit down just and refuse to take any thoughts in your mind.  Just say not this, not this.  So suddenly because your Kundalini’s there already up there, so you become thoughtlessly aware.  Once you become thoughtlessly aware you can stay like that for about five minutes or so, just that’s all.  It’s not much time is needed because you are in meditation.

Question: Is it possible that those who teach about the Spirit differ on different points?

(Public Lecture, Brisbane 5th May, 1987)
Shri Mataji: In the beginning they do little bit.  Is still they are not settled down.  You see they have to mature in Sahaja Yoga no doubt.  But in the beginning they do little bit differ but not much.  In the beginning they do little bit sometimes differ, that I have seen because one has to mature first of all.  Once they are matured they don’t.  They are very much in union with each other.  There’s no difference at all.

Question: Why have the churches not told us about this (Self-Realization)?

Question: Why have the churches not told us about this (Self_Realization)?

Shri Mataji: That was not the time Sir. Imagine Christ lived only for three and half years, in the sense that for his spiritual undertakings. He was allowed only Shri Mataji, founderfor three and half years to live like that. Churches do not know it but even Christ, imagine for four years I was struggling with seven English boys and girls to give them Realisation. He did quite a good job, I must say still, but that was not the time. Christ actually came on this chakra, is the Agnya chakra. That was His time to show the way of resurrection. That was His life and that’s what He’s done. But the churches have missed the point. Churches have missed the point and they will go on missing the point because their main interest if it is how to make money, is not good. Or how to convert people is not good.

Question:  Are there a lot of holy people in the church?

Shri Mataji: There could be many people who are very simple. Who believe in Christ, who go to churches because they believe that they will be saved.  Continue Reading »

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