Public Lecture (Brisbane Australia ’87)

Question: Do you leave the present plane of consciousness, just by getting to the Realisation (through Sahaja Yoga)….

(Public Lecture, Brisbane 5th May, 1987)
Question: Do you leave the present plane of consciousness, just by getting to the Realisation (through Sahaja Yoga). I have come here to learn but it shouldn’t happen that you lose your present plane of consciousness.

Shri Mataji: No you don’t lose it. No, no nothing like that happens. Actually, what happens that you get an additional new Shri Matajiawareness within yourself. You are very much there. Very much alert. Absolutely aware but you get an additional awareness which is of the Spirit. You don’t lose anything like that.

Say now, for example, you have a brother. Now you have not very good feelings for him, say for example. When you get your Realisation you see that he is a good boy and you forgive him with your heart, and you love him and you forget that what was wrong with him. You see the good points about him because you become absolute. Your judgement differs. You laugh at yourself. What was wrong with him is no more. I was wrong at that time. You don’t mind accepting that point. I was wrong, not now, I was.

Another thing is, supposing you have a particular habit, and you can’t get over it, it’s impossible, even if you want to you cannot. Now you are so powerful you don’t look at it, you don’t want to have it anymore. You just don’t like it. I would say this way, that an animal can pass through a dirty lane, it doesn’t feel the dirt or filth or anything, doesn’t smell anything. But a human being cannot. In the same way the realised soul doesn’t like anything that is wrong. It becomes righteous automatically. Virtuous automatically and is not asserting that on anyone. They are virtuous, they are righteous and they live in their own glory. This is how the awareness takes a beautiful turn.

Question: Do you believe in reincarnation?

(Public Lecture, Brisbane 5th May, 1987)

Stain Glass, Jesus ChristShri Mataji: Yes, of course there is reincarnation. No doubt about it. And when Christ has said "I’ll come again", that means there is reincarnation. But most important thing, what are you now and what you get now, is the most important. We shouldn’t worry about what we were in last life. What does it matter.

Question: Is it possible that those who teach about the Spirit differ on different points?

(Public Lecture, Brisbane 5th May, 1987)
Shri Mataji: In the beginning they do little bit.  Is still they are not settled down.  You see they have to mature in Sahaja Yoga no doubt.  But in the beginning they do little bit differ but not much.  In the beginning they do little bit sometimes differ, that I have seen because one has to mature first of all.  Once they are matured they don’t.  They are very much in union with each other.  There’s no difference at all.

Question: Most people say that from their previous experiences they find that it is not possible to have a moment or so where there is no thought.

Shri Mataji: Is true.  You cannot till the Kundalini is awakened, you can’t have.  You see one thought rises and falls another thought rises and falls.  There’s a little space in between which we call in Sanskrit as Vilumba, very little spaces.  Now what happened with Kundalini awakening, both these thoughts become elongated and this Vilumba increases.  So you will automatically have that.  You won’t have to worry about that. (Public Lecture, Brisbane 5th May, 1987)

Question: How did you begin this Sahaja Yoga meditation, how were you initiated in this group?

(Public Lecture, Brisbane 5th May, 1987)
Shri Mataji: I was not initiated. I had this from my very childhood. You see I know you would like to know about me, but it’s better first you know yourself. Then you will know about me better. All right?

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