Public Lecture (New York, USA ’99)
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Question: Individually, is the purpose of the soul to be separate or collective?
Shri Mataji: Collective is the purpose of your soul. You have to become collective, but it’s not the collective, artificial one, but like your hands are collective with the whole body. If there’s a pain here the whole body will feel it. But who is the other? You can feel everyone within yourself. And that is what happens to you. So the purpose is that you become the whole, and completely engulf into the whole. All right?
Q: Once you become Self-Realized how do you maintain it?
Shri Mataji: I used to think that once you get Self-Realization you are Self Realized you see. But it’s not so, I must face the facts as it is.
Once you get your Realization, of course you do feel all the time the cool breeze and all that. But there are problems on your centers, on your chakras, which you can feel on your fingertips. You can see yourself, I said self-knowledge, so you can see yourself what problems you have, you can feel the problems on yourself. Immediately you say “All right, this is the problem.” And that problem you want to correct yourself because you see yourself. I’m surprised sometimes people come and tell me, “Mother, my Agnya (sixth centre) is very bad, please, please correct it.” That means “Mother, I’ve very egoistical.”
Normally nobody would say I’m egoistical will they? Nobody. But once they get self-realization they see the problem, they love themselves, they see themselves in that love, they say that why not I get myself corrected. Then of course it has to be worked out a little bit, like even if the seed sprouts, it has to grow. It doesn’t take much time.
Within one month’s time, most of the people become masters. They can give realization, they can tell them, anybody. You need not be very well educated, nothing, I’ve seen in the villages, people work it out so fast. So I can’t say exactly how much time it will take but I’ve seen people becoming masters within one month’s time. And you don’t have to pay throughout. It’s very important to understand.
Q: With all the traveling do you miss your family?
Shri Mataji: No. [Shri Mataji laughs] My family is very sensible. And I travel, they also travel with me. My family, all of them, are here now in America. But my family is very sensible and they realize, they have realized that this is such a great work I’m doing. So they support me, they help me in every way. They are very supportive. And they like it and they enjoy it, enjoy all the people who have got realization. There’s a family, has the same ideas, or we can say the same feeling, for the world and they are very happy about it.
Q: Have any of your grandchildren or children had the same insight or born with the same insight as you?
SHRI MATAJI: Yes, you see, I have also great-grandchildren. And I’m surprised that they are all born realized. They are born realized, that’s very surprising. And the family is so united, so helpful. And my great-grandchildren also have the vibrations, they understand. I mean its remarkable how the Divine has been kind to me, to give such a family. I have never neglected my family, never, but they understand that my work is very important and they also enjoy my work very much. They also feel the vibrations, they also have got realization.
Q: Once you get self-realization you know yourself, but who is going to correct the injustice in the world? Who is going to become the leader? Who will change the world where there is injustice, where there is discrimination, where there is hatred? If you are saying forget about the hatred, who is going to come forward? If I become self-realized and then forget the hatred then who’s going to come forward and change the world where there’s injustice, where there’s a crime, where there’s a harassment?
Shri Mataji: Ah, correct, that’s the worry I have. This hatred and all this, comes through ignorance. We have ignorance, and once you start getting into this great ocean of love, it starts just disappearing from you, to begin with and from others also, who have got realization.
Now they say that Sahaja Yoga is working in seventy-two countries and we have seminars in India sometimes and sometimes in Italy where the people from all these countries come. I have never seen them criticizing each other. Of course they have great fun, they enjoy, but never seen complaining or doing anything wrong to each other. Because now they have become all one.
It’s the last judgment, this is the time of last judgment. If you want to remain as you are, you’ll remain, nobody can force you. But, if you want to rise to that level, you’ll be amazed, you’ll have friends all over the world. Not ordinary friends, but real, real friends.
So, just to get rid of this hatred and all nonsense what do we have to do? Think this hatred comes from where? It comes from human beings. So, we have to transform them. If they are transformed, things will be all right.