Public Lecture (New York, USA ’99)

Question: Could you mention how to lose body consciousness?

Q: Could you mention how to lose body consciousness?
SHRI MATAJI: Now all these words have absolutely has no meaning. Body consciousness this thing, that thing. You see it is said that you should not be conscious of your body. You should be conscious of your body as a human being, there’s nothing wrong. But once you get your realization, you become conscious of your subtle body, which is within you, so you can easily get it. But you don’t lose the consciousness of your body, that’s not so.

These are all funny things they are doing. I was telling you that you fly in the air and all that, it’s not. It’s absolutely simple that you become consciously aware within yourself of your own powers. And which you use, not for cruelties or for making money, but for love. I mean it is something it is something that happens to you, like I would say a flower. See it’s just a bud, maybe it’s not even a bud, but then it becomes a flower. And you see your fragrance and you are amazed at yourself.

So all these things that you have to give up your body consciousness, this consciousness, is not necessary at all. You don’t have to give up anything. Wherever you are, whatever you are, in that only you get the light, the enlightenment as they call it.

Question: After receiving self-realization who is going to correct the injustice in the world?

Q: Once you get self-realization you know yourself, but who is going to correct the injustice in the world? Who is going to become the leader? Who will change the world where there is injustice, where there is discrimination, where there is hatred? If you are saying forget about the hatred, who is going to come forward? If I become self-realized and then forget the hatred then who’s going to come forward and change the world where there’s injustice, where there’s a crime, where there’s a harassment?
Shri Mataji: Ah, correct, that’s the worry I have. This hatred and all this, comes through ignorance. We have ignorance, and once you start getting into this great ocean of love, it starts just disappearing from you, to begin with and from others also, who have got realization.

Now they say that Sahaja Yoga is working in seventy-two countries and we have seminars in India sometimes and sometimes in Italy where the people from all these countries come. I have never seen them criticizing each other. Of course they have great fun, they enjoy, but never seen complaining or doing anything wrong to each other. Because now they have become all one.
It’s the last judgment, this is the time of last judgment. If you want to remain as you are, you’ll remain, nobody can force you. But, if you want to rise to that level, you’ll be amazed, you’ll have friends all over the world. Not ordinary friends, but real, real friends.

So, just to get rid of this hatred and all nonsense what do we have to do? Think this hatred comes from where? It comes from human beings. So, we have to transform them. If they are transformed, things will be all right.

Question: Once you become Self-Realized how do you maintain it?

Q: Once you become Self-Realized how do you maintain it?
Shri Mataji: I used to think that once you get Self-Realization you are Self Realized you see. But it’s not so, I must face the facts as it is.

Once you get your Realization, of course you do feel all the time the cool breeze and all that. But there are problems on your centers, on your chakras, which you can feel on your fingertips. You can see yourself, I said self-knowledge, so you can see yourself what problems you have, you can feel the problems on yourself. Immediately you say “All right, this is the problem.” And that problem you want to correct yourself because you see yourself. I’m surprised sometimes people come and tell me, “Mother, my Agnya (sixth centre) is very bad, please, please correct it.” That means “Mother, I’ve very egoistical.”

Normally nobody would say I’m egoistical will they? Nobody. But once they get self-realization they see the problem, they love themselves, they see themselves in that love, they say that why not I get myself corrected. Then of course it has to be worked out a little bit, like even if the seed sprouts, it has to grow. It doesn’t take much time.

Within one month’s time, most of the people become masters. They can give realization, they can tell them, anybody. You need not be very well educated, nothing, I’ve seen in the villages, people work it out so fast. So I can’t say exactly how much time it will take but I’ve seen people becoming masters within one month’s time. And you don’t have to pay throughout. It’s very important to understand.

Question: Shri Mataji, with all the traveling do you miss your family?

Q: With all the traveling do you miss your family?
Shri Mataji: No. [Shri Mataji laughs] My family is very sensible. And I travel, they also travel with me. My family, all of them, are here now in America. But my family is very sensible and they realize, they have realized that this is such a great work I’m doing. So they support me, they help me in every way. They are very supportive. And they like it and they enjoy it, enjoy all the people who have got realization. There’s a family, has the same ideas, or we can say the same feeling, for the world and they are very happy about it.

Question: … spread the word of God using our thoughts and our actions.

Question: Someone once said to spread the word of God using our thoughts and our actions. I just want to know what is thought about that statement.
Shri Mataji: First you should get connected to God. If you are not connected to God, whatever you are doing in the name of God may not be. First point is we should be connected. Supposing this instrument [pointing to microphone] is here, and if it is not connected it has no meaning. In the same way our God’s work has no meaning because we are not yet connected. First get connected to His power.

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