Interviewer: What’s the role of the artist in this work, this Sahaja Yoga? (An artist, artistic work like music… )
Shri Mataji: Oh, great, great! Tremendous it is! You see, those people who have been realized souls have created eternal art. Like we can say, Michelangelo was a realized soul. So his work is eternal art. And, they produce art which creates vibrations. You can feel vibrations from him. In the whole church if you go you feel horrid, but when you go to Sistine Chapel (photo) and see his work, the whole thing fills you up with vibrations. They are creators of vibrations. Imagine! The musicians like Mozart – Mozart creates vibrations but Wagner… [laughter]
You see. So, they are the people who are realized souls. You have some tennis players who are realized souls also, perhaps you…
Interviewer: Tennis players?
Shri Mataji: Yah! MacEnroe is a realized soul and Borg is also. And, My grandchild told Me, “You know, why Borg has retired? Because another Sahaja Yogi has come now, the younger one, so give chance to him and that’s why he is very honorably retired.” [laughter]
Is because when MacEnroe speaks, you must have seen, he tells himself “John, now behave yourself.”
They are in the third person. And, that’s why people don’t understand him and he doesn’t like to be insulted. And, that’s very true. Anybody who is a saint doesn’t like him to be insulted. So, like that you have so many people who are realized souls, we can say. Even the Princess of Wales (photo) is a realized soul and the new child is a realized soul. So, there are so many people like that who are realized souls.
Question: Do you have to sit in any special posture while you are doing this (Sahaja Yoga meditation), or can it be done at any time and in any form?
(Public Lecture, Brisbane 5th May, 1987)
Shri Mataji: No. You see in this Sahaja Yoga you become the Spirit. Then you don’t have to meditate much, about ten minutes or so is sufficient and there’s nothing much particular restriction or anything in it. You can sit in any pose you like, there is no restriction of any kind. Because you become the Spirit. Only thing is you have to get into thoughtless awareness, that’s the first state is, which we call as Nivichara. For that state to achieve you see you have to sit down just and refuse to take any thoughts in your mind. Just say not this, not this. So suddenly because your Kundalini’s there already up there, so you become thoughtlessly aware. Once you become thoughtlessly aware you can stay like that for about five minutes or so, just that’s all. It’s not much time is needed because you are in meditation.
Question: Am I correct that what you’re saying is that God and man are one and you are just trying to reconnect us with God, and for that one cannot pay, or be nonsensical, they just have to have a clear and open mind..
Shri Mataji: Yeah, that’s it. That’s it.
Question: That’s all?
Shri Mataji: That’s it’s. She’s understood me very well I must say. That’s it. That’s it. Just what you need an open mind and another thing you need a little bit because I think we save time to waste it so we have to save time little bit to pay attention to our ascent. Little bit, not much, little bit time we must give and we must develop ourselves, first just the sprouting of the seed takes place then we have to fix it up properly and that takes hardly a month and you can become all of you can become great gurus. He’s a big guru but look at his dress and all that you can’t believe. He knows everything about Kundalini, but you can’t make it out from him you see we are normal people, very normal.
Question: How can we practice this system?
Shri Mataji: Yes. Now there are no exercises madam nothing it just spontaneously happens to you and you get it there. Little bit of course I’ll tell you how to raise it again and again today only but then we have to a very nice center here and we have very good Sahaj Yogis and you’re welcome to come there and they will teach you each and everything.
(Editor: Location of international meditation centres are located here http://www.sahajayoga.org/worldwidecontacts/default.asp)
Question: I have a search for the material and a search for the spiritual, but while I am young should I use it for the search for the material or the search for the spiritual?
Shri Mataji: If you get the Spirit you get the material automatically. The whole material is controlled by the Spirit. Is very surprising how you get it. Is you enter into the realm of God. You’ll be amazed that in England, there’s such a lot of joblessness, people don’t have jobs at all, unemployment. See all these words I don’t know. Unemployment. But not a single Sahaja Yogi is unemployed. Not a single Sahaja Yogi is unemployed. The other day, one gentleman was to come from Paris to Australia for a particular seminar and he thought he wanted to come because this is the other side of the world and all that, but quite excited. But he didn’t have money, and suddenly he got the money which he wasn’t to get for eight years. Suddenly he got the money, he is here. All such miracles work out. Continue Reading »
Question: What would be the effect of increasing number of Sahaja Yogis on the economic system and the lifestyle of the country where the increase of Sahaja Yogis takes place?
Shri Mataji: Oh, it just triggers everything. For example, now what are our problems? We see the economic problems of this country is. I have understood it so well that we have so much of a, say, ores and all other things like silver we have here, and gold and all kinds of things we have, and the ones who are exploiting us are Americans and nobody sees the point. Nobody sees the point. While those who will get Sahaja Yogis, they will become so dynamic. They will put in their own industries here. Why send it? Why make cars in America? Why not make them here? So many things can happen because you become so dynamic and there’s so many people to help you all over that this is what should happen. After all, you have all kinds of things available here. Why should you send your aluminum to America, to be drawn into wires and beaten into sheets? There’s no need. We can do it ourselves.