Interviewer: How much are you, I mean, I said my last question half an hour before. (Laughter) How much are you influenced by Christian ideas? Shri Mataji: You mean Christianity or Christ? Interviewer: Yes. I don’t know – define it, I mean, whatever is important for You. Shri Mataji: Christ is very much there, no doubt, but Christianity I don’t know, it’s like all other religions, it has diverted. There was a book recently which I read Gnostic, which was – you might have also heard about it, when Saint Thomas on his way to India wrote this thing and put it in a jar in Egypt. It was found out about 48 years back. Gna in Sanskrit means ‘to know’. And in that whatever he has written challenges all our Christian ideas. First is that we must suffer, that God wants us to suffer for Him, and all these ideas of Christianity – we should confess our sins, and all that is being challenged. So about Christianity – I was Myself born in the Christian religion. And I was quite surprised the way we are following Christ. Because if we had followed Him properly – the first thing He has said is that, “You have to be born again.” And when He said that again we branded ourselves ”we are born again”. Just like so many people brand themselves as “Brahmins” or anything. But you are not born again, because a born again person has powers, has powers of raising the Kundalini. So, like that, Christ has said that, “You are to be born again,” meaning you have to have your Kundalini awakened. It‘s very clearly given in our Shastras, that a bird is called as a dwijaha, means born twice and a Brahmin is called also a dwijaha, means born twice. Means the Brahmin has one birth as a human being and second birth as a Brahmin when he knows the Brahma, means the All pervading power. In the same way a bird is born as an egg and then is reborn as a bird. So this is what is clearly given that you are to be born again, means that you have to get your Realization. Christ has said so many things, like He said, “Thou shalt not have adulterous eyes.” Now tell Me Christians what do you think about their eyes? Why Christianity has failed? Why has it failed everywhere? The problem with them is that they have not followed Christ as they should have. And it’s all diverted. The whole thing is so diverted. Now also I don’t understand why Paul is in Bible. Paul has nothing to do with Christ. He was epileptic. He was the one who killed Stephen. He was the one who killed so many Christians. He just had the supra-conscious experience of a cross and finished. He is an organizer. And do you know now the Protestants are going so far to say that Christ was a human being – finished. Because they can’t go anywhere near Him. So call Him a human being. They are even going up to the point to say that He was homosexual, what do you say to that? I mean, they go on saying every sort of thing about Him, who was the only Son of God.
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Interviewer: Mother, what is the true nature of death? Is it possible that you can choose not to die? What’s the purpose of death?
Shri Mataji: See, death is just like changing your clothes. So sometimes when you use too much of your clothes you get tired. You want to change it. Like that death is. Nobody dies, there’s nothing that dies except that the part that is the Mother Earth and the part that is the water falls off, and you remain as you are. But if you are a realized soul, then you have a choice. If you want to be born again, you would like to be born. If you don’t want to be born, you will not be born. But after Realization, it becomes your choice. If you want to die, you can die. If you don’t want to die, you need not die. But you want because you think that “Let us die and come back as new people again to help Mother.”
Interviewer: So can you give me some not private details on your family’s life. I read as well in your bio, that now your daughters are married, and then you started to do what you are doing nowadays. So did you influence them as they were kids? Or when did you start to create your theory, your yoga?
Shri Mataji: No, I was quite aware of it from My very childhood. And I took My birth in a Protestant Christian religion, you see, My father and mother were enlightened people, especially My father was a very enlightened person, and actually he told Me what sort of work I’ll have to do, because what problems I’ll have with human beings, because he told Me how human beings are, their problems are, what permutations and combinations they have. And then as a custom in India I had to marry also and I married a very nice man, and then I had children. And I thought that unless and until I reach a certain age, I should not start talking about it, because at a young age people may not take it up seriously.
But apart from that I had another problem that I found that human beings have certain permutations and combinations of barriers and Continue Reading »
Q: How important are our eyes?
Shri Mataji: Another thing a Sahaja Yogi must know, that eyes are very important for Sahaja Yoga. When the Kundalini rises, then the dilation of the pupils takes place, because you have seen the children how their eyes are dilated. Looking at everything, what is happening. Just gazing, silence, complete.
Silent seeing goes on through the eyes. And that’s why eyes are very important. You must learn to fix your eyes within yourself, in your heart. Humble down, in your heart, fix your eyes in your heart. You see, I say that way, but I don’t know if you can do it. I don’t know if you can do it, but if you could do it that’s a very good way of doing things.
Looking at everyone, gazing at everyone, seeing this, seeing that, is a very bad exercise for your eyes. It’s a very bad habit. Try to keep your eyes low, on the earth, Mother Earth, watching the lower part of the body. Than the face, because face, if you are made that way that you can watch the faces, all right but you are not yet made. Best thing is to see to the feet. And your eyes will touch their gross sense, feet from where the sensation of vibrations go up. Upward, and the Kundalini rises better. Actually those who suffer from low Kundalini rising, if they could rub oil on their feet and wash their feet, it’s a very good thing.
Question: Mother, some questions about who You are; who were You as a child; what people influenced You…
(From Radio Interview 1983 Oct 01, Santa Cruz USA)
Interviewer: Mother, today there are many, many things said about Sahaja Yoga, about Your philosophy, and very little is said about who You are as a person. [Shri Mataji laughs] And, I thought it would be good to start out with some, some questions about who You are; who were You as a child; what people influenced You; what brought You to the place You are today as a Luminous Being sitting before me and before us.
Shri Mataji: I am a very ancient being – that problem is like this. [laughter] I had to… what can I tell you about Myself? I just don’t know what part will interest you, but only thing I can say that I was born with this understanding and awareness that I have to find out a method by which I could give en masse Realization to people. I was a Realized Soul, of course. I knew all about it from My very childhood. But the problem was that how to make many people get it, because if one person gets it or one person has it; if one person is an incarnation, people don’t understand it. Not only that but they may even try to destroy such a person. That’s what happened to all the saints who came on this earth. Christ was crucified; Mohammed Sahib was given poison – because they were
ignorant. They did not know what it was, what was He saying.
So, it was important first of all to find out a method how to give them en masse Realization, and from that angle I just thought that “this is why I am on this earth and I have to do this job” for which I wanted to study about human beings. I took My birth in a Christian family and that too a family which was Protestant family, because I felt that Protestants are fanatics but very sophisticated. [laughter] And, they rationalize everything to such an extent that nobody can see beyond it. So, I better take My birth in them and My father and mother had already taken birth whom I had chosen as My parents. They were great people, realized souls and specially My father was a person who knew why I was on this earth. Even My mother knew about it. Continue Reading »